Songwriting is a craft. As in any craft – ice skating, painting, public speaking, cooking – there are best practices that border on being rules.
These standards sometimes define the craft. For instance, if an ice skater glides into the spotlight carrying a stick and hitting a puck she’s no longer ice skating but playing some form of hockey.
At other times these best practices determine what is “good” or “bad” craftsmanship. Painting without regard for composition, for example, may still be called “painting” but it is also likely to be called “bad” painting.
The university I visited last week asked me to teach a class on songwriting. They didn’t, however, tell me the students would be worship music majors. As I taught what little I know about the craft, the students kindly rebutted: “But what about when Chris Tomlin…”
The frontrunners in worship music do not adhere to most of the best practices that have long defined the songwriting craft. So is what they do even songwriting? Is it bad songwriting? Or is it a new thing altogether, defined by a set of best practices all its own?
I’m not passing judgment – just making the observation and asking questions that may only seem important to me and my nerdy songwriting friends.
So, for the three of you still reading? Here are just a few of the songwriting practices worship writers are routinely ignoring.
What A Bridge Is For
We all know what a verse and chorus are but what about a bridge? It’s the part that happens (usually) only once in the song. In a pop song it almost always comes after the second chorus. It’s purpose? To say something new, to bring a new angle lyrically and musically. But not so in modern worship songs.
In modern congregational music the bridge is so often one or two lines repeated several times. They are more about creating a musical emotional “moment” than they are about contributing any new concept lyrically.
(A song doesn’t have to have a bridge, by the way, but when it does there’s a standard for how it should function.)
Support The Hook
The hook of a song is often the title, and usually a word or short phrase tied closely to the main idea of the song. It’s also the one piece of lyric a listener is most likely to walk away remembering. It’s usually the centerpiece of the chorus. And the verse lyrics lead the listener to the hook.
A good example is Katy Perry’s song “Firework.” The hook is “firework”. Look at how the first verse of the song begins very generally and then slowly becomes more specific, centering in on imagery related to “firework”. This is called supporting the hook. She begins by describing a broad feeling, then attaches that feeling to the metaphor of “firework” with related words like “spark,” “ignite,” “shine,” and “4th of July.”
Do you ever feel like a plastic bag
Drifting through the wind, wanting to start again?
Do you ever feel, feel so paper thin
Like a house of cards, one blow from caving in?Do you ever feel already buried deep?
Six feet under screams, but no one seems to hear a thing
Do you know that there’s still a chance for you
‘Cause there’s a spark in you?You just gotta ignite the light and let it shine
Just own the night like the 4th of July
And here’s the chorus with the hook at the forefront.
‘Cause baby, you’re a firework
Come on, show ’em what you’re worth
Make ’em go, oh, oh, oh
As you shoot across the sky
Katy supported the hook well: That verse couldn’t be a verse in any other song. It has to be paired with that hook: “firework.”
Now look at the hit worship song “Stronger” by Hillsong. The hook is “stronger.” Here’s the first verse.
There is love that came for us
Humbled to a sinner’s cross
You broke my shame and sinfuless
You rose again victoriousFaithfulness none can deny
Through the storm and through the fire
There is truth that sets me free
Jesus Christ who lives in me
And here’s the chorus.
You are stronger you are stronger
Sin is broken, you have saved me
It is written, Christ is risen
Jesus you are Lord of all
The hook is supported so poorly that this first verse could just as easily be paired with the chorus of “How Great Is Our God” or “Mighty To Save.” When a hook isn’t well supported a song becomes so general it’s generic. Speaking of being a bit too general…
More Detail Is More Universal
Patty Griffin is a great writer in part because when she describes a scene I feel like I’m there. When she introduces a character? I can see them in my mind’s eye. Just enough detail – not too much – anchors a song’s message (and every song has one) in the real world. And that makes it universal – more appealing/relatable to any human living in the real world.
But today’s worship songs talk about God and the writer’s experience with Him in so little detail that she could just as well be talking about her boyfriend or anyone admirable or beloved. A few of the often used generic descriptions of God are “good”, “majestic”, “great”, “loving”, “merciful.” And they’re all true! The Bible says so!
But the Bible says so with specificity – within a large detailed story made up of smaller detailed stories that take place in the real (ancient) world. It tells us exactly what is unique about the goodness, majesty, greatness, love and mercy of our God. It tells us why, how, to whom and when He is good, majestic, etc. And so the God of the Bible is anchored in real life and portrayed as a Person so unique that He cannot possibly be mistaken for your boyfriend…or anyone else.
Avoid Cliches
A songwriter cannot say something new, but she can something old in a new way. Pick any song that’s stood for generations and read the lyric. Odds are it doesn’t contain a single line that had been heard verbatim before. But worship music?
Here’s the chorus to chart-topping worship song “I Lift My Hands” by one of our best: Chris Tomlin.
I lift my hands to believe again
You are my refuge, You are my strength
As I pour out my heart
These things, I remember
You are faithful, God, forever
Biblical? Sure. These words are almost entirely copied and pasted from scripture – the Psalms, to be exact.
Only in the writing of worship songs is such constant copying and pasting and pasting and pasting again not looked down upon.
Why Are The Rules Different For Worship Writing?
I have a theory. I think worship writers have parted with standard songwriting practices because they’re creating with the live experience in mind. So their priorities are much different from those of a traditional songwriter.
Participation, for instance, is a top priority for the worship music experience. To ensure our participation on Sunday morning, lyrics and melodies and song forms are simplified to the point that standard practices are broken.
Because when we participate we want to feel something too, writers and producers give us a lot of long-building crescendos, emotive guitar swells, drum breaks, and other production techniques that stir our emotions during the live experience. And they don’t put as much effort into crafting lyrics, which tend to be thought of (right or wrong) as tools best suited for eliciting thought rather than emotion.
We don’t want a great song. We want a great experience. And that’s what worship writers are giving us.
This is either resulting in good hockey or bad painting. I don’t pretend to know which. What do you think?
Bob Speakman says:
I don’t think its “good hockey” or “bad art”. I do think, however… its a different kind of art. I assume when artists first started using the visual art of “abstract” it was met with criticism. Sometimes I still find difficulty locating “beauty” in abstract pieces. However, it is art. In the same way “worship music” though it doesn’t follow the traditional rules of writing, is still a legitimate song writing style. Just as abstract is intended to envoke a different emotion, so is worship music. Traditional song writing is literal and obvious… while worship music writing styles plays to the emotion and participation; it invites the listener into a place not bound by tradition, but only by the heart.
Shaun Groves says:
So, it sure sounds like your vote is “good hockey.”
I was with you until you said that traditional songwriting is “literal and obvious.” No biggie…but I disagree with you there.
I get your point though. Good analogy!
Bob Speakman says:
I try to sound smart sometimes, but my words get in the way. ๐ What I mean is that the “hook” is something that you have no issue locating. Its obvious. The framework of a fantastically written song is obvious to see. Your verses, chorus, bridge, the hook, etc. It’s all there and you’re not digging to find it. There’s beauty in that. There’s also beauty in a worship song that even though you might not have a hook… and the words might not rhyme… the beauty isn’t found by reading the lyrics. It is found when you hear it… when you experience it. You have to live a worship song. Maybe that’s like a invisible hook… if you will. ๐
Taylor says:
Hey Shaun, long time no talk.
I googled “hillsong music is bad” and this forum came up. crazy!
As someone who writes songs, plays guitar, and tours with mainstream artists and has also been involved in worship music for awhile I really resonate with your thoughts.
I love the teaching at the church I go to, but constantly leave going “what are we singing? these lyrics are words I would never use except for maybe in a love letter i may have written to my crush in 7th grade”
It might be because I am a musician and know what’s involved, but why have people on stage singing bland songs while my speaking pastor delivers and articulates so well!? It is frustrating.
I remember playing at a passion conference years ago and realized it’s not for me. It seemed that songs with little craft were emotionally pulling on 25,000 paying customers.
I like what you said about specificity.
Take Patty Griffin’s song “Tony”. It’s a personal experience of hers, but I can relate in one way or another to that song knowing kids like Tony growing up. The pain he went through, knowing the kids who caused that pain, and ultimately knowing someone like Tony who took his life because of it… Times I may have even felt like Tony…
Why does that resonate with me more than “how great is our God”?
Last weekend my pastor was open and honest about his experience and guilt of consent to an abortion in his teens. I don’t hear much transparency or honesty like that in modern worship songs. Someone referenced Gungor earlier and his sophisticated approach. He is very talented and it maybe not the most “congregational” music. Maybe that’s not the point. Maybe a time to sing together (hymn), and a time to appreciate a great song/performance like a band such as sixpence none the richer would do.
Juan Borda says:
Thanks for this posting Shaun. You articulated well this subject of worshipful song writing.
Kit says:
I’m interested to see what people say about this. I’m no expert, but I do know I dislike most modern worship music. I do like hymns– some of those don’t have a bridge either. But the lyrics are good!
I’m interested in this sort of thing because I wish I could talk to my church music team about what and how they choose for us to sing each Sunday, but they seem pretty defensive after so many style arguments among Christians over the years. It’s kind of intimidating– I don’t want to be “that person” who complains about the music, but at the same time I think it can be a valid conversation sometimes. There are many angles at play in these things!
Shaun Groves says:
I speak/sing at about a dozen Christian colleges every year and the songs the students belt out the loudest tend to be hymns. I don’t think they’re out of fashion one bit. As the leader of worship leaders at our little church outside of Nashville, I sing at least one hymn every time I’m the guy upfront. It’s not even intentional “blending” on my part. Those songs are just part of my musical vocabulary and our congregation’s too.
Kit says:
I agree! I think it’s a misnomer to say that young people don’t like hymns. I feel like the average worship leader is a generation just above mine and has this idea that they are doing what everyone likes, but really they aren’t ๐
It’s a really hard discussion to have though, because they ARE older than me, and because they have “heard it all before” and I don’t blame them for being defensive. Our leader actually said of one conversation that annoyed him, that people have already chosen to attend this church so in doing that they agree that they are okay with the music and cannot later ask to change it. Um…. maybe we didn’t pick the church because of the music! It’s not okay to make suggestions or ask questions later?
Sheila Warner says:
Why are hymns still so popular? Because the melodies are beautiful, the harmonies are awesome (and usually easy to sing–I’m an alto), and the lyrics contain some of the best theology on the planet. “Great Is Thy Faithfulness” is one of my favorites. The lyrics are taken from Scripture, but put together in a way that allows me to picture the Eternal God on His throne, watching over His children. P & W is okay on a limited basis, because it’s all about the emotion of love for God, but lyrics with meat on them are the ones I like best.
Kit says:
you know, it IS so interesting to read everyone’s comments and seeing common themes. I should have just not said anything, and sent this post to our church’s worship leaders to start a conversation that way ๐
We apparently sing 1.7 hymns each week. I don’t understand why it’s not half the songs but that 1.7 songs is supposed to be more than enough. And they are also almost always “dressed up” hymns with new added refrains. It’s not what I’d prefer, but I’ll take what I can get.
Brad says:
Oh…man. I almost posted an article on worship music last week. So glad now that I didn’t as this was so much better than what I had in mind. I’ve been wrestling with this subject as I’ve been learning more and more about songwriting. The “generic” feel in a lot of worship music bothers me. Not because I want to be a music snob, but because it just seems like music written to worship God should be…more. Shouldn’t the worship of our creator be a wellspring of creative writing? Writing for congregational worship is somewhat unique but I wish we would work hard enough at it to produce good art that is also accessible in worship.
Shaun Groves says:
Just a tiny bit of pushback, Brad: I’m not crazy about the word “art” because it’s hard to define. What do you mean exactly when you say you wish we would produce good art?
Brad says:
Good point. It *is* hard to define. As I apply it to music I am usually thinking of a creative work that helps the glory of God leak into this existence, that brings me in touch with the divine, maybe (dang, it *is* hard to define). But something more profound than just the “warm fuzzies”. Perhaps in this context I should have just said “well crafted music that is also accessible in worship”.
Brad says:
I was thinking about this. I think I would also add something similar to what A.W. Tozer said once, that “true” or good art is a creative work that is made in response to the Creative Voice. I also want to be clear that I appreciate anyone who is attempting to do something with their time and talents for the Kingdom. I do not want to diminish other’s contributions but I just believe there is more. Sometimes I think the assumption is that our congregations cannot handle something more complex or sophisticated. I think we need to help lead them there.
Karen says:
I am no song writer, but since I love to sing I am jumping in to this! ๐ One of my favorite things about my church is that we can actually hear the voices of the people with whom we worship. On a fairly regular basis our leader brings the instruments so low that voices are really all you hear. It is BEAUTIFUL and MOVES me.
My ‘beef” with a lot new worship music is that it is often very repetitive and melodically predictable. I long for meaningful lyrics that do not have to be sung 13 times…and if there is or isn’t a bridge or hook I am ok! ๐
Sheila Warner says:
Karen, then you would really love some of the older, classic hymns. I mentioned “Great Is Thy Faithfulness”, but there is also “How Great Thou Art” and “In the Garden”. These are songs which have both melodies that are stirring, choruses that are uplifting, and meaningful descriptions of following God, and the joy that following Him gives. I recommend the album “Hymns A Place of Worship” by 4Him. Just beautiful, and my favorite 4Him CD ever.
Thomas says:
I am probably the last person who should be commenting on this since, I have only stepped once into church over the last four months, I donโt listen to much Christian music nowadays, and I am not a musician or a song writer.
I call it laziness. It is laziness on the listener who does not want to spend the time to truly listen to the lyrics and laziness on the song writer because they know the listener is lazy. I also believe that KLOVE and the Fish played role in this. The process they use to choose their songs makes it hard for well written songs to get played on their stations.
Thomas
Brad says:
Well said.
Phil Mehrens says:
I think songs are added to the worship “heavy rotation” list for different reasons probably as varied as us worship leaders who lead them. I know I think a lot more about the craft of the songs than before I was writing and studying it. It was always gut call…maybe now a more informed gut call. Songwriting is a study and skill of what is successful. Before the merging of church music and 3 minute radio singles I think church music developed exactly as you indicated…in line with the needs of a spiritual (and I might add congregational) experience. Modern pop songwriting is relatively recent and song structures have expanded from simpler or differing ones. I remember when bridges were scarce in pop radio and AB songs were the rule.
I do see exceptions like you pointed out but I think the songwriting craft is growing in church music. I also think that the writing from “across the pond” seemed for a while to go by different rules…such as titles not being hooks…maybe because they are meant to get you started on the first line of the first verse for the congregation.
I don’t know who first said it but I have heard that a great melody attracts a listener and the lyric holds them. I think in the end the songs that “stick” in the life of the church are ones that hit the “spiritual nerve” of the church and it’s mission.
Shaun Groves says:
I don’t see the trend you see, Phil. Have you listened to the latest releases from Jesus Culture, Chris Tomlin, Charlie Hall and Hillsong? Worship music is consistently going against the grain of traditional songwriting technique. Again, I’m not saying that’s good or bad. But it certainly is. What albums/songs have you heard lately that support your point? i’d LOVE to hear them!
Phil Mehrens says:
You’re probably right if you are speaking strictly of what “modern” worship genre has been streaming the last couple of years. But when I think of the development of songs like, “Your Great Name”, Hillsong’s “Still” and “Inside Out”, “Hosanna” (one of my favorite worship bridges) “Cielo” “In Christ Alone” compared to what was contemporary when I started leading worship…uh, 20 years ago, I’m grateful to see the progress.
rcc says:
phil – who is “cielo” by? btw-interesting article & thread.
Ben says:
Good post and good thoughts. i would call worship songwriting Good Hockey. They are different but related forms of art — traditional/pop songwriting and worship songwriting. Of course that is no excuse to write bad worship music, it just means the ruler with which to measure is different.
Melissa Jones says:
A couple of pertinent points here, imo:
1) “We want a great experience. And thatโs what worship writers are giving us.” – it’s been a while since I read “The Divine Commodity,” but this pretty much nails it.
2) I forget who I heard say it first, but “when did ‘worship’ become a musical genre rather than a lifestyle?” Practically every Christian musician nowadays feels the need to write “worship” songs, but (imo) this is a WILD misunderstanding of what worship is (a lifestyle of bringing attention to God) and what it isn’t (a style of music). But since that’s what radio stations play and what sells, that’s what they write and record. And it makes for sloppy, lazy songwriting. Not all of it is that way. There are some awesome songs out there….but there are also some that are just a waste of 5 minutes on a Sunday morning…..but they’re popular so they get sung anyway.
But when you add those two things together – (“experience-driven” worship services) and artists writing what sells (sometimes sloppily or lazily) – you get songs that are written differently. And I personally think it’s a mixture of good hockey and bad painting.
The trick is being able to discern between the two!
Shaun Groves says:
Just to clarify…I’m not endorsing the “we want a great experience” sentiment. I know you’re not accusing me of that but I suddenly realized my post wasn’t all that clear on that point. Not taking a stand against it either. I’m Switzerland ; )
Melissa Jones says:
Ha!
Sherron says:
I’m voting for “bad painting.” When I attend a service that uses worship music, I am bored to tears. There’s nothing worshipful to me about singing the same refrain over and over and over again. And I feel very much removed from the service, distracted, even. But when I attend a service that uses hymns, I am often moved to tears by the lyrics (especially those middle verses! I grew up in a first-and-last-stanza church so the middle verses are often new to me.) I feel more a part of the service and singing the hymns is truly a worship experience.
Trudy Royston says:
Sherron, thank you, you have articulated my sentiments exactly.
Kari says:
I really enjoyed this and find it thought-provoking. I was just mentally sneering (again) at Firework this very afternoon as one of my piano students asked for help learning to play it. It’s always good for me to receive a de-snobbing, and I’m grateful to you for pointing out the strengths of the writing in that song. Overall, I still think it’s dumb, though it’s catchy. Oh yes, it’s catchy. I may have to listen to something else to be able to get to sleep tonight…
Up until 3 years ago, I only ever attended a traditional-hymn-singing Southern Baptist church. Recently, as God has brought me back to faith, I’ve been delighted to find meaning that I never saw before in the common phrases and rituals of the church. I’ve been uninspired by what I hear on Christian radio, but I couldn’t put my finger on what was missing, and Shaun’s outline here offers some enlightenment.
I agree with Shaun’s theory that lyric writing for the live experience can be simpler. Maybe simple phrases, repeated (several (ahem) times), help folks enter a meditative state, truly worshiping in a more focused way because there aren’t many words in the way – just the essentials.
I say it’s hockey, but let me not judge its worth…not out loud, at any rate. And our little bitty church, full of music snobs as it is, still indulges in (and truly worships through, I think) some mainstream worship music now and again. But I would LOVE to hear some rocking, edgy (meaning it doesn’t sound like 1990’s pop) music that has some truth and clarity and just enough details and might even be about Jesus. I mean, besides Shaun? (note: I have learned to love Andrew Peterson and a couple of others. Always delighted to hear of more!)
Wondering whether it’s even worthwhile to post these musings, but considering there’s a chance I might be blessed by a further de-snobbing in the replies, I think I’ll chance it.
NancyTyler says:
I’ve never been too attracted to the modern worship genre and have wondered for the longest time what was wrong with me because so many other people are into it and love it. Why don’t I?
I sure don’t want to insult my friends who enjoy it, and there are a few songs here and there that I sync with, but the predictability of the same words and phrases in the lyrics of a majority of modern worship music doesn’t engage me–it can leave me feeling kinda disappointed and it can numb me to the true meaning of those words. I like to be challenged by lyrics as I like to be challenged by teaching from the pulpit.
When I have to repeat lines over and over and over, song after song, I feel as if an attempt is being made to work me into an altered emotional state and I’m sure that’s a well-meaning intention, but I get frustrated and have caught myself saying “Oh come on, get on with it!” ๐
The worship genre also doesn’t strike me as music that I could share with my friends outside the church culture, where ears are tuned to the sound of more standard songwriting.
I’m grateful my church uses a variety of musical style, instruments and genres–including modern worship. As part of the stew, it works for me. As the main ingredient, it’s too much.
Joy says:
I agree with Nancy 100% …especially the first paragraph.
Beth says:
Amen Nancy! Thanks for stating so perfectly what I wanted to say!
Trudy Royston says:
Well said. Thank you.
Larissa says:
Very thought provoking article. I have a love-hate relationship with these popular worship songs (my church uses them, as well as newly-reworked traditional hymns, and also produces worship songs that are recorded, and then become part of this cycle). My thoughts usually go around like this:
I really like this song. When I sing it, I remember how “faithful, good, etc” God is. But, we really are singing this over and over, aren’t we. Should we be doing a new song with more interesting lyrics… Like Gungor. Why don’t we sing something from Gungor’s latest CD instead? (I went to a concert for their latest album and it was a very unique worship experience. Part of what made it great was that while it was “new”, almost everyone attending already knew the songs and sung along.) At some point though, everyone is going to say, well this Gungor stuff is old. (Not sure about me, i still love it. I still have my old Keith Green, Rich Mullins, and Enter the Worship Circle in my car sing along rotation tho so I”m probably weird).
Then I have another thought, which stems from the fact that I lead worship for elementary age kids at church (but i don’t get to choose the songs). They often have repetitive choruses that alternate being really fun pop-type phrases, while still containing a lot of quotes from Scripture, with verses that are so fast and have so many words that kids just cannot sing along with them usually.
HOWEVER, after you do them enough times (we do a new song 4 weeks in a row), they DO learn the words (even those who can’t read!) and the spiritual truth stuck in that catchy tune starts to sink in. (I know b/c my 5 year old sings them in the back of the car then a month later talks about the words in them). Putting words to music is, after all, a time-worn tradition in teaching children facts that you want them to remember. (My children also like Gungor, and Chris Tomlin, and well lets be honest, TobyMac, tho! ๐
So, my conclusion is that I think worship leaders should continue to write for the experience (as many people walk into church and do not have these songs on CD or hear them on The Fish), yet should also not be afraid to get more creative and new, since if the little children can manage to follow along, then maybe the adults can too.
I think it’s a very delicate thing. Truth be told, I have found a lot of wonderful music through the internet, and while we only have a few minutes of songs on a Sunday, I have my entire week to fill my heart and mind w/ anything I want, and I often choose newly recorded hymns (like Jadon Lavik’s and Sandra McCraken’s) and others that are more recordings that really allow me to worship, without being a worship song (Andrew Peterson – such as Hosea, and Come Back Soon, or Phil Wickham’s Sailing on a Ship, or Vista by David Wilcox, or The Good Shepherd by Fernando Ortega – that one puts my kids to sleep too :). I live on music, it gets me through my days!
Sorry I’m so long-winded.
chrismo says:
I agree that participating in an experience is a key differentiator. As to whether the result is good or bad depends a lot on the context provided by those involved. The song is just a tool in a conversation and trying to have a shared conversation with a room full of people is frankly a daunting task. Perhaps it’s a miracle that it ever happens at all?
Melinda says:
I don’t know much about song writing but I do about words. Words are my life line. I need them to sort my thoughts and writing keeps me clear and focused. So when I listen to music I’m looking for it to speak to me. To give me words. Those awfully repetitive songs don’t do that. But lyric rich songs give words to say what I’m thinking, what I don’t even know I’m thinking. That’s why Third World Symphony is so good. It says what I think., what we think, or should be thinking. What I want to think. Not many songs do that. Not many songwriters have the ability. So if worship music is anything more than a voice for prayer or praise given a melody, if it’s contrived to gain an emotional response on a specific stanza, then it’s not what it should be.
Sandy says:
One of the things that has grated on my husband and I since we moved to a new area and a new church is the banality of the music: lyrics that while they do describe God (i.e. worthy, majesty, holy, wonderful) are so lazily written that you could put each line in any order and it wouldn’t change anything.
The melodies themselves are often either hard for the congregation to follow (which if they were truly songs designed for collective singing by ordinary folk, they wouldn’t be) or sound like something you’d write for a bunch of nine-year-olds. The odd thing is that there are better songs out there, old and new, and they don’t get sung because we only sing what the ‘worship team’ choose. It also grates that sometimes the worship team seem to be doing a ‘performance’ which we are expected to join in with rather than leading the congregation. I want to ask them ‘who are you singing to’?
My husband and I are both rather underwhelmed. That makes me sad. And when the preaching is also underwhelming… It is just such a shame, that’s all :-/
Are you going to write more songs, Shaun? ๐
Thomas says:
Sandy, I know this might be a hard question to answer, but do you think that American Christian worship music influences what is sung in your churches across that big pond that separates our countries?
Sandy says:
Yes, definitely, US and Australian influences. There are some homegrown people, like Matt Redman and Tim Hughes. I like some of their songs, and they’re better than the 80s/90s contemporary music. That was even worse – if it had the words ‘God’, ‘lovely’, ‘precious’, a melody that sounded like ‘The Wheels on the Bus’ and could be played on the guitar it would be sung. But then, I’d grown up in a church that mostly sung 19th century dirges… which were often equally unimaginative.
Kristin Taylor says:
It seems worship music is often written for the masses, making it easy for anyone to sing. This coming from someone who doesn’t sing well but loves music. It’s aimed to draw people in and invoke an emotional response while worshiping. This could be an attempt to reach the masses.
I have a family member who goes to a traditional Church of Christ, where no instruments are used. While I disagree with some theological points there, one thing is obvious: They can sing. They use their voices alone to worship and sing traditional hymns that have tons of harmony.
I think about our church, where we have rotating worship teams lead songs. Yes, there are tons of repetitive-lyric songs written so anyone can sing them. But it is refreshing when someone throws in an old hymns that tells a more thorough story or a song from Third Day, Newsboys or Caedmon’s Call that has more developing words.
Kaylie says:
Honestly I have a lot of trouble connecting with modern worship music. I always thought it was because I’m so attached to my childhood hymns, but I think you pointed out some other issues I have been having with it as well.
My husband gets a little irked when I make fun of certain worship songs so I try to be gentle, but truthfully some of them only barely border on making sense. I also am so over the “repeat 500 times” strategy.
However all that said, I usually spend most of worship sitting in my chair or kneeling to pray because that is always the way I focus best on actually worshiping God so it never really matters much to me what music is or isn’t going on!
Meredith says:
I agree that there are some worship songs that I really enjoy, but then we get to the end. As we repeat the same line anywhere from 5 and 15 times, rather than increasing my worship, it is my aggravation level that increases. It feels like the intent is to manipulate my feelings rather than to inspire true worship. True worship for me involves the mind as much as the heart. Repeating the same line over and over is disengaging.
There are several things that I don’t like about the modern “worship experience” as a member of the congregation.
1. There is no sheet music – I can’t see the notes.
2. Because there are no notes for anyone to follow, there is no harmony except for the very musically talented that can make their own. It’s very one-dimensional. And when the worship leader tries to throw in some harmony, because we don’t know it’s coming, it throws off half the congregation.
3. Our church almost never does hymns. I miss them. I agree with a previous commenter that many hymns inspire me to worship far more than worship music.
4. There’s a decreased emphasis on music in the church, to the point that our church’s children’s choir program has been discontinued in favor of children’s worship. I have many issues with this, which may be too much to go into!
Teish says:
Despite years of piano lessons, I am not a musician in any sense of the word! But I do love good music. (That’s probably why I kept trying to learn to play the piano when it was obvious that it wasn’t my talent!)
I’m really sorry that the hymns I grew up with seem to have fallen out of favor. Occasionally, (when no one’s listening!) I’ll sit at the piano with a hymnbook and pick out the tunes to my old favorites. I may be rather old-fashioned, but I still like hymns much better than most worship music.
Shaun Groves says:
Maybe it’s a regional thing but hymns are, if anything, increasing in popularity in these parts. I wonder if it’s a backlash of sorts against certain aspects of modern worship songs. Hmmm.
Lindsay says:
Great article to ponder before I lead music at an event this weekend. Which is more important…participation or contemplation?
Karen says:
Thankfully they don’t have to be mutually exclusive! May HE direct you to the songs!
Lindsay says:
Agreed! ๐
Joshua Seller says:
Shaun, this is so well written. Thanks for the insight and help. I get so defeated as a writer with the fine line and reality that “it’s all been said before” or if it hasn’t, it’s because it doesn’t sing well or is too cheese. These “rules” will be put to use for sure!
Shaun Groves says:
Quite a few of you aren’t wild about the receptiveness of modern worship music. I do think there’s a long tradition of repetition in worship music going all the way back to at least the 4th Century in Ethiopia. The Church there was criticized for it’s use of drums and repetition in church gatherings. There’s nothing new under the sun huh?
Not saying repetition is a good thing; just that it’s been around a lot longer than Hillsong ; )
Sheila Warner says:
Switzerland isn’t really working for you. I’d like to see your honest opinion here. Be bold!
Sandy says:
The beauty of Taize would not work without repetition.
Kevin Barkman says:
Great post! I have been following your blog for a while and hoping you would post on this topic. I was not disappointed.
Thanks for posting this, and keeping up such a great blog!
Eric says:
As a relatively new worship leader who inherited a repertoire heavy on worship songs, I struggle with this regularly. The focus of my service is obviously not to impose my musical ideology on others, but to a) lead / enable people to worship & b) encourage them in their relationships with Christ. As much as I may personally dislike some, worship songs do that for some people. It often surprises me what songs will enable a person to connect with God- I think “bland words are bland” or “I-IV-V chords. yay.” But they are distinct, different people; perhaps he connects one song with a particular struggle he has overcome, or her the day the Holy Spirit opened her eyes & she finally understood the Christian faith & received Christ.
My goal in planning our services has become to use variety as a tool to provide richness & enable as many people as possible to connect with God. Worship songs do that for many in our congregation, but the detail you mention is where some songs & hymns can challenge them lyrically; those songs may/may not be as accessible, but they paint much more detailed pictures, which point to the rich detail of our Lord. The mix of the styles has become my art.
Also- worship music majors? That’s a thing?
Sheila Warner says:
I was raised a Fundamentalist in a church where we sang traditional hymns. The lyrics are filled with wonderful theology, which often underscored what our pastor preached. I attended a couple of more “modern” churches as an adult, with lots of P&W. The songs were fun to sing, but honestly, I can’t really remember most of them. However, I still can remember the lyrics and melodies of those great hymns. In 2004, I entered the Catholic church, where the songs are not at all like hymns, nor are at all like P&W. You would have to go to a Catholic Mass to grasp what I’m saying. The songs are more simplistic, and no one sings harmony. Many of the lyrics are also filled with theology, but they aren’t songs I find myself singing at home. I still love the old Protestant hymns the best. Occasionally the Mass will have us sing one of them, and it is glorious. Understandable lyrics with no unnecessary repetition are the songs I enjoy the most. Oh, and I agree with the point about bridges. They can really be crucial to a deeper understanding of the writer’s meaning.
Jessica says:
You had me at bad hockey.
Bob says:
Well written post, Shaun. I find myself in agreement with all of it, and I applaud you on your restraint. You could have been much harsher.
I AM a songwriter, struggling along as so many of us do. I sometimes think I set impossible standards for myself, which keeps me from sharing more of my music than I do — and keeps me from writing much worship music. But I just don’t see the point of sharing something that I don’t love. And if I turned in some of the music I hear today, especially the lyrics, I’d be ashamed.
I do think, however, that we’re headed in the right direction. At least we’re past the days of “Awesome God” (sorry, Rich Mullins). When writers like John Mark McMillan pen songs like “How He Loves,” it gives me hope.
One of the biggest issues in the whole thing is the music industry itself. I realize that songwriters have to eat, and CCLI is a good way for songwriters to get paid for their work that’s used in worship. But honestly, CCLI seems very self-perpetuating to me. Almost Payola. A worship leader trying to figure out what to sing goes to CCLI and checks the Top 25 … meaning the songs in the Top 25 stay there for years because it’s based on use. If you’re not signed to Sony, you’re not getting there.
Maybe I’m not smart enough to come up with a universally better way, but here’s one idea. Our churches should embrace the songwriters they do have, encourage them to write songs and hymns that have meaning to the local church, that support the pastor’s message, that speak to the local community. Again, as someone else said, maybe we’re too lazy. But I can tell you … I keep offering to write for my church. And they keep going back to the CCLI Top 25.
That’s a ramble. I just appreciate what you have written here, Shaun. It’s worth our struggle to write great music for God. I don’t know if modern worship music is good hockey or bad art — I just want to glorify Him profoundly in every aspect of my life.
Sherri says:
First of all, thank you for your respectfulness in the way you’ve dealt with this issue. And I agree with your conclusions. I had a few thoughts:
I think the content issue may have to do with the fact that a lot of worship writers are musicians more than they are lyricists. So the lyrics naturally become secondary. The worship culture is centered around musicians, not writers. There’s nothing wrong with that (except when people like me are busy mentally re-conjugating verbs, and changing tenses all worship long.) A lot of people assume songwriters do both, but I think in a lot of cases you are either a great melody writer or a great lyric writer. Or at least you care about one over the other, and it’s discernable in the final effort.
Can I just also say — lyric writing is really hard to do. It doesn’t seem hard . . . until pen is to paper . . . and trash is to can. It’s hard. Plain and simple.
And I think that many of our songwriters may be self-taught and might not realize there is more to the structure/lyric than they’ve recognized. They may have natural talent and a strong personal style, and that can get someone a long way down the road. I’m a graphic designer, so here’s my analogy: You may be able to run Photoshop, but if you don’t know the rule of thirds, or understand flow or perspective or color, it’s noticeable. Your design may look kind of okay, but it will feel like something is off. I think that’s what some of us feel — like it’s not quite all the way there. Good structure is invisible to most people, but it does a vital job in finishing the piece. But unless you know what you don’t know, you’ll think it’s fine. (HT to Rumsfeld there)
Thank you. Great post — I made my husband listen as I read it out loud. We love songwriting and appreciate it so much when it’s done well. Isn’t it fantastic when a writer has great content and meaning, and the structure just knocks you out? I think our worship writers would love the power of it if they were encouraged to dig into the nuts and bolts. Anyway, I appreciate your blog, and your work with Compassion.
cshell says:
Huge hockey fan here, so yeah, I read the whole thing waiting for the “hook”…see what I did there?
Enjoyed the post, loved the comments, thanks for writing about this.
p.s. Are you saying Katie Perry is a good songwriter?
Shaun Groves says:
Yes, I am.
I toured with her when she was 15 and signed to a Christian label. For three months I watched as she wrote, wrote, wrote. She wrote every single day. And she’s dang good at it.
Noah Beemer says:
Whoah really?! I never knew that about her….. not that I’ve ever really heard a lot of her stuff, I’m just not into the pop scene. But that’s kinda cool. I’d love to hear the story behind that one! haha…. Shaun Groves(favorite Christian music artist) toured with Katy Perry(extremely popular pop artist) when she was 15 and signed onto a Christian label. There’s something….. ironic about this. Haha! Mind blown. If you need me, I’ll be off reading Katy Perry’s music bio…..
Kelli says:
Your post was great, but the comments were better. I wish I had something more productive to add to the conversation, but I don’t. Mostly I have just been nodding my head vigorously and every once in awhile saying, “Yes!” I might’ve thrown in a fist pump or two.
I love music. Love, love, love music. I love to hear it, I love to sing it, I love to be swallowed whole by it. Sometimes I am entirely underwhelmed by praise songs. Lee and I attended Chuck Swindoll’s church for two years when we were first married. He always called modern praise songs “7-11” songs because “you sing the same 7 words 11 times.” ๐
There are other times, though, when I do get swept up in the emotions of the moment and the most banal of praise songs can reduce me to tears. If I could choose a weekly worship set, it would include a lot of hymns (sung ala Selah), and the people leading worship would really believe what they’re singing. If the songs are merely being performed in rote, then worship is stale and everything but worshipful. A good worship leader can make just about any song worshipful, in my opinion anyway.:)
As far as the writing,though, I think you’re so spot on. I’ve just never heard it explained the way you explained it.
GREAT discussion, Shaun.
Brad says:
So, I woke up at 5 am this morning thinking about this (yes, I am a sick, sick man…pray for me) and had a couple thoughts. First, I recognize what you’re saying in the comments above about Katy Perry’s songwriting, but I have to ask…does being a great songwriter mean that the songs you write are great? I mean this in the larger context of the discussion (not just looking at Katy’s music). In other words (and excuse the bad grammar), if worship leaders learn to write songs great, does that mean they will write great songs?
Also interesting is that this morning I saw an interview with some broadway big-wigs. One of them mentioned how Shakespeare was so great because he wrote at a time when, for the first time in ages, you needed to write plays that appealed both to the educated and royalty as well as the common “rabble” of the day. It had to have the highest artistic integrity while also communicating to the common man. So, I guess there really isn’t anything new under the sun. Isn’t that essentially the same issue we are looking at?
Anyway, food for thought. Loving this discussion.
chrismo says:
Both of your questions lead me to further questions: what makes a song great? does the breadth of its appeal influence its greatness?
I prefer to think of it this way: a work of art is valuable if it helps communicate Truth to the audience, regardless of the size of the audience.
Works that only talk to small audiences don’t seem to be deemed great (or at least have the longevity to have a chance of being judged so), so it would seem that overcoming the difficulty of communicating effectively to a broad audience is necessary for greatness.
But I think that’s a mistake, to couple broad appeal to greatness. It’s a practical outcome that small, great things will never be able to be known by all, and it’s fine to be awed by the rare works that transcend time and cultures (the Shakespeares and “Great Is Thy Faithfulness”es), so long as we never forget the greatness God can do in small works that only impact a few.
(or somesuch)
Brad says:
I agree in not disregarding “small works”. I guess my questions above should be framed within the context of “what should our goal be”. Or in other words, what are we aiming for?
chrismo says:
“What are we aiming for?”
How would you answer this outside of the artist context?
Apply what the Scriptures teach us to all circumstances, whether a work of art is involved or not.
Honor one another above ourselves. Whatever is true, honorable, right, pure, lovely, of good repute, dwell on these things. Pray without ceasing. Give us this day our daily bread. Forgive us our trespasses as we forgive others and Your will be done.
I realize this all may come across as a cop-out answer, but I mean it – I think we should strive to look past the art itself and as Maritain says, “simply try to make a beautiful work.” Whether the result is great, small or popular, is up to the Lord anyway.
Shaun Groves says:
I’ve learned to steer clear of words like “art” and “great” in discussion like this one ; )
Seriously, I’d say the “greatness” of a song is hard to define, incredibly subjective. But the craftsmanship of a song is not. A song can be well-crafted by adhering (mostly) to the “best practices” of songwriting that have evolved in the West since the advent of popular music’s “song style” since the late 18th Century. (I’ve always wondered if that History Of American Popular Music class would come in hand. Whadayouknow?)
But is a well-crafted song automatically great? Who’s to say?
chrismo says:
… and is a poorly crafted song that’s used for God’s good great? My wife was saved via the prayer on the back of a Jim and Tammy album.
I think these discussions can be useful in the small, but end of the day, it’s His stuff, He’s just asking me to play a part in it and asks me to follow Him.
Shaun Groves says:
I think what you’re saying, Chrismo, is that God is sovereign and uses what He wants – big and small – for His purposes. Agreed.
Yet we can still think critically (without being critical) about all things. Agree?
Sovereignty doesn’t negate discernment.
chrismo says:
Definitely agree. We should take seriously the work of our stewardship, so long as it’s pushing me deeper into my relationship with the Lord, and I should never forget He sometimes delights in using some very ill-crafted people.
Sovereignty doesn’t negate discernment, but it does trump it.
Joseph Suratt says:
Would say that not all Christian worship artist can be accused of worshiping with “bad art.” Take for instance Phil Wickham’s music. His lyrics are vivid and heart felt. I understand what you mean and I agree. Chris Tomlin has never been a big favorite of mine. There are a lot of other good christian artists as well.
Shaun Groves says:
To clarify, Joseph, I never said Chris Tomlin was making “bad art.” Or anyone else. Many worship writers are not adhering to best practices of songwriting. I’ve called that neither good nor bad.
And, yes, I like Phil’s music very much. Beautiful voice and imaginative lyrics.
Inkling says:
I’ve been thinking about this article since first reading it a couple days ago.
I’m in a church that has some published songwriters. We occasionally sing hymns, but not often. We usually sing the stuff written by the people in our church. I don’t know if it’s to save on CCLI costs or why, but always find it interesting that I am always surprised when visiting other churches to hear what they sing.
I’m also in a Bible study that sings three hymns every week, all the verses. They try to pick hymns that match up with the themes we’re studying. Just yesterday I found my eyes welling up with tears while contemplating one of the verses. I find it sad that my son will only learn about hymns from me singing them here at home. (And he’s only going to be little enough to not mind my bad singing voice for so much longer.)
I’m curious to understand how churches pick the songs they sing, why they pick them, and what their purpose really is. Is it to connect us with Jesus? Is it to evoke an emotional reaction? Is it to teach us something of depth and breadth in terms of theology? Is it to showcase local talent? And what happened to actually learning how to sing corporately? As a kid, I remember hearing everyone around me singing parts. Now everybody just follows a melody, if it can be heard above the instruments.
This church helped me connect to God for the first time through music, but this church also makes me homesick for the hymns and the depth with which I grew up. I wonder what it would take to get both in the same place.
Matthew (FzxGkJssFrk) says:
I almost posted on this the other day, and couldn’t make enough time to formulate my thoughts coherently, so I skipped it. Glad to see the thread’s still active…
For me it really depends on the song, even from the same writer/singer/group. There are some songs that I strongly prefer not to use in corporate worship for precisely the reasons Shaun outlines. And I don’t, except on some rare occasions when I’m overruled by my pastor, who is (for good reason) more concerned with gospel truths and Sunday morning experience than with good songwriting technique.
Sometimes it’s just hard. We are a multi-ethnic church with a white worship leader (me), and trying to integrate gospel music into our mix is difficult. Even more than pulling off the style appropriately, it can be challenging to find songs that have meaty theological content or that don’t go too far towards triumphalism or prosperity doctrine. I’ve found that it can help in these cases to stick with songs that are Scripture-based. A lot of Israel Houghton’s stuff is lyrically really simple, but frequently it at least comes directly out of the Bible rather than from the New English Christianese Magnetic Poetry Kit (TM). *coughForeverReignahem*
One advantage of drawing on multiple styles is that I don’t have to go too deep in the well of modern worship, so I feel like I can steer clear of the “bad paintings” and keep some of the “good hockey”. We do some traditional hymns with old and new tunes, and some Getty/Townend modern hymns, in addition to modern worship stuff. I’ve found some “good hockey”, so to speak, in the Sovereign Grace denomination’s modern worship songs; but then they’ve spent a lot of institutional effort toward developing good songwriting technique.
Sherri says:
Good Hockey and Bad Painting both work if they are anointed (which brings a whole other point to this discussion?). However, I have personally heard Mr. Tomlin say that the reason he inserts all the seemingly banal wooo wooo wooo’s into his lyrics is for the express purpose of his world wide audiences. Either way, I believe the bottom line is anointing in hockey or painting.
Sherri says:
*world wide audiences who do not speak primarily English
Shaun Groves says:
Sherri, may I press you on something? COuld you define “anointing?” And, I’d love to see scriptural references for the concept as well.
I did not grow up in the charismatic tradition but I hear this term “anointed” used often – sometimes in reference to my music. I think as a compliment? But I, honestly, have struggled to understand what it means…exactly. Could you teach me?
Sherri says:
Shaun, since you didn’t leave a Reply tag on your comment below, I am assuming you want me to privately email you my reply? Or post the 2 typed pages here?
chrismo says:
Sherri, the blog here appears to not show a Reply link on any comment that’s two deep – you’ll need to use the Reply link on your comment to further comment at this point (confusing, I know).
Sherri says:
http://www.passioncitychurch.com/watch/#PCC-012713-V3
I’ll just let my pastor speak to the topic of worship from last week
Sherri says:
By the way – he (Giglio) is the executive producer of a lot of the most popular worship songs of this generation. Maybe the heart behind it will show through to those who are questioning….
Kevin Davis says:
Sanctified (another way of saying anointed): Declared or rendered (something) productive or conductive to holiness, blessing, or grace, purified from the corrupting influences of the world. I use that term “anointed” in describing music that is set apart from the world and holy. Not so much regarding “Firework,” sorry. With that defnition, a painting, person, or a worship song could be described, declared, or rendered as sanctified or “anointed.”
Noah Beemer says:
Just curious… Who’s the one declaring something “anointed”? Who has the authority? Could Joe Blow walk off the street and declare heresies “anointed”? Where is the biblical basis for such terminology? Did Jesus or the Apostles ever declare certain things “anointed?” And if there’s really nothing more to this term than just to express that something is God-glorifying, then what’s the point? Just call the piece of art, the song, or person God-glorifying and do away with the extra spiritual jargon. Not trying to argue over petty matters, just practicing some critical thinking and attempting to simplify things. ๐
Kevin Davis says:
“God-glorifiying” it is, then…that’s good feedback. Again, doesn’t apply to “Firework,” per se. Could apply to any number of things that are “God-glorifying.” Anointed and sanctified are biblical terms, however and “anointed” appears in the Bible over 80 times. Thanks for your thoughts. God bless, Kevin
Chuck says:
Shaun, Very good post. 3 members(including me) of our Praise band went to a music leaders conference. At the conference, Mozart was our friend, his music allowed us to clear out some of the junk that had gathered the day before at the conference. The conference was aimed a “larger” churches. One of the things I noticed about many of these churches as that they are “seeker” friendly. The style of songwriting writing that you discussed is indicative of the seeker friendly style. It is designed to be catchy and to get the seeker into the pew seat so that they can be exposed to the Word of God. Unfortunately, in a lot of these churches nothing progresses past the seeker style to something with more substance in the services. There are bands out there who produce music with more sophistication, Gungor comes to mind. But it is hard to lead a worship service musically with songs that the congregation don’t know or can’t join in singing. There has to be a balance between seeker friendly and tradition.
In our contemporary service we blend the same music in with our liturgy to achieve the balance that is needed. We try to do songs that lyrically fit with the readings and a known to our congregation and still keep the Episcopal liturgy that binds our church into a family.
Finally, I think part of the limitations with music used in a service deals with the limitations of the musician’s themselves. Being in a small church all of our musicians are volunteers. We don’t get to have try outs and handpick the best of the best. In the end we give God the best that we can give. And in the end that is all we can do.
Brad says:
I think this article pertains to our discussion. Says it far better than I could:
http://philokales.tumblr.com/post/42037821589/expulsion-from-the-gallery
Maria says:
I have a good friend who lead worship for over 30yrs, and he had a saying, “People don’t know what they like, but they always like what they know.” I think it’s something to consider. I also know that for me, my biggest issue is whether a worship song, hymn or otherwise, is singing about God and His attributes, or just about what ‘we’ can do for Him. So many current songs (last 20 yrs) are so self-centered that it’s hard for me to understand how they’re considered worship.
Shaun Groves says:
I’m studying my way through the Psalms right now and what’s struck me again and again so far is how “self-centered” they’ve been thus far. David talks a lot more about himself, his needs, his problems, what he’ll do for God than I realized. So are the Psalms “worship?”
chrismo says:
This reminds me of the “God is my girlfriend” critique of many modern praise songs (that a lyric was so vague the subject could be either God or a girlfriend). My leaning is to be inclusive of self-centered songs, I don’t mind acknowledging my/our role in the relationship. Judgment of a song should be more focused on the community that’s participating around it, since what may be praise for one group could be a stumbling block for another.
“Let us therefore make every effort to do what leads to peace and to mutual edification. Do not destroy the work of God for the sake of [a praise song].” Rom 14:19-20
Thomas Dalke says:
Deep lyrics about God always come from deep experiance with God. Frill and show always shows itself just as that.
krisyoursis says:
Shaun, think you’ll appreciate this video: “How to write a perfect worship song in 5 minutes or less” (sassy homeschoolers!) ๐
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhYuA0Cz8ls
…and might I add–if you REALLY want to get your worship on, make SURE your church’s fog machine is blowing full-throttle!
shayne says:
So…I’m guessing this post is mainly for songwriters? Because I’m thinking that the majority of the congregation doesn’t know or care what part of the song they’re singing.
They just know if they like it or not.
Shaun Groves says:
True, Shayne. But when they don’t like it they don’t know why. This post has helped a few folks answer that question.
Thomas Dalke says:
Just turned on PBS News Hour and heard an elderly classical conductor chastening his youthful musicians for playing to “relaxed”. Which left some of them looking rather befuddled; to quote: “For taking the path of least resistance and not taking the path of most resistance” as he said to the interviewer they should. At that moment I thought music is an expression of heart, make it to mechanical and formulated and all you doing is pleasing your music teacher, but are you really making music?
Thomas Dalke says:
This is a follow up to my previous posting. I’m not opposed to rules and or structure for they help define (and direct one) into just what one is trying to do and accomplish. That said music that is technically perfect (or at least strives to be so) often is done so at the cost of personal expression and creativity. And that is what I like to hear in music the individual’s personality/heart, and thus how does this musician or performer expresses themselves through what they are playing, singing, and or creating! What does it say about them? And in the context of their worship music their experiences with God, with other s, even themselves.
Music doesn’t have to be technically brilliant to be captivating, but it does have to have heart, and in the context of worship music I listen for the heart of God beating in unison with His reconciled child.
Shaun Groves says:
“Best practices” in songwriting are, in a sense, no different than best practices in English. You, for example, consistently use “to” when you mean “too.” Subjects must agree with verbs, as well ; )
Now, are you typing in bad English? Well, maybe not, but obeying the “rules” of English makes for clearer, and I think, better communication.
Thomas Dalke says:
Sorry for all the posts but my finial statement should have read:
Music doesnโt have to be technically brilliant to be captivating, but it does have to have heart, and in the context of worship music I listen for the heart of God beating through His reconciled child.
Kit says:
I’m sure you’ve seen this. I just saw it and laughed, especially in light of just having read this here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhYuA0Cz8ls
Shaun Groves says:
Funny because it’s true.
Thanks for sharing!
Brad says:
Hahahahahahahaha! Ouch.
David Avila says:
Reminds me of the South Park episode when Cartmen starts a worship band, Faith + 1.
Shaun Groves says:
That’s he only episode of that show I’ve ever seen. A Christian artist had it on DVD and played it for everyone on the tour bus. Oh, the irony.
Again, funny because it’s true. If I remember correctly, Cartmen took lyrics to love songs and changed all the “baby”s to “Jesus”es. And…it worked. Yikes.
Robert Bigley says:
Is “bad hockey” an option? Ha!
This is a very well articulated post, Shaun. I have felt that worship music has been “genre-less” for decades. In the 80’s it was sort of a Broadway knock-off (off-off-Broadway). Now, the best of it seems like not-quite-Coldplay (lukewarmplay?).
And, I have had the same experience at college chapels…the REAL congregational singing kicks in during the old hymns, or during a Keith Getty hymn. We love to sing good doctrine to a good tune. Poorly crafted love songs for Jesus grow stale quickly. Which is why we used to exhaust the whole-step modulation in back in the day – to prop up the song for one more round. More common now is to set the first chorus down an octave, then jump the octave when it’s time to kick it into gear. Which makes it a bit challenging to find a key that works for both worship leader and congregation.
On the encouraging side, it was one of our Worship Arts students who pointed me to your post…so maybe there’s hope after all!
Thomas Dalke says:
In emphasizing all my grammar errors Shaun did you even consider what I wrote? I heard Billy Graham once describe how a man who was listening to his preaching was appalled at all of his speaking errors. Nonetheless he heard the message spoken to him and believed. And ultimately that’s all that matters.
Shaun Groves says:
So sorry, Thomas, to make you feel as if you hadn’t been heard. I heard you. What I was attempting to do was use writing a comment on a blog post as a parallel to writing a song. The analogy obviously failed.
Thanks for your comments. Making me think for sure.
Scott says:
I’m going with “bad painting”.
My 4 year old recently went to a VBS where the theme song was “Jesus, you’re my superhero”. First of all; it’s a lesson I’ll have to un-teach him someday. But I digress…
The songs that have come to embody the modern worship genre are lyrically and sentimentally identical to the sentiments sung by 4 year olds. On some level that breaks my heart.
But on another level it’s just modern church. I’ll come to church. Sing a bunch of formulaic songs, The pastor will literally read the bible to me since he doesn’t think I read on my own, and then he’ll tell me what I have to believe based on what he just read. Even if he only one a single verse. Just like a four year old.
Come to think of it. That breaks my heart even more.
Good blog post.
Kevin Davis says:
Hi Shaun, I’ve been reading your “shlog” posts for many years and this is one of my all-time favorites. Your ability to communicate truths and incorporating Katy Perry, Hillsong and Chris Tomlin as your examples is sheer genius. You are an amazing worship songwriter. You took my life verse, Isaiah 6:8 and incorporated it into my favorite song, “Here I Am.” Brilliant song, and very worshipful. The song is the beautiful cry of my heart and the Isaiah 6:8 passage put to song really speaks to me. 700 years before Jesus came to earth, Isaiah pointed us to the cross and the saving love of Jesus. Once we know that saving love, I am consistently challenged to think about how โHere I Am, Send Meโ looks in my life. Thanks again Shaun for writing and singing my all time favorite song based on my favorite passage of the Bible. God bless, Kevin
James Tealy says:
Thank you so much Shaun. It feels like I spend a good portion of every week in this same wrestling match. I’m a staff writer for a Christian label and a touring worship leader. Surely we can all admit that we (I mean those of us high-fiving your opinions here) are the 1%. The 99% seem perfectly satisfied with, even drawn to, the shallow and repetitive. Listeners surveys and research sampling suggest the 99% want to feel like they’ve already heard this new song before? And as you’ve suggested, the chances are they have.
Is it even possible to get a worship song “through the gate” and into wider use without succumbing to the same bad practices you’ve described? The 99% seem hungry for the simple and bored with the beautiful. To that end I do believe modern worship writing has begun to define it’s own new set of rules based (at least partially) on what seems to “work,” what congregations respond to, what radio listeners request.
If you’ll permit a baseball analogy, let’s call a Tomlin hit, a pitch lobbed slow across the center of the plate. And you and I can list thousands of our own beautiful curve balls that no one will seem to swing at. Is there perhaps a third pitch toward the corners of the strike zone? Beautiful in it’s arching movement but still close enough to draw a swing? Can we call worship writers to find the third pitch? To balance the demands of accessibility with weighty challenge of writing timeless songs that reflect the beauty of the Creator?
Is it even still possible in 2013 to find commercial success and simultaneously produce great art? (Your two favorite words I know.) I keep hoping there is. Powerful lyrics that never make it past my publishers desk won’t help the church fall more deeply in love with Her Lord. Tomorrow I will step back on the mound and search for those elusive corners of the commercial strike zone.
Brad says:
Well said! Is it possible? Yes, and I believe we have a responsibility to try. In our role of recapturing the imagination of the culture we have to give folks what they need, not just what they want. People cannot know if they want something that is new because they’ve never heard it before. Time to move past listener surveys. Time to move past the machinery. Time to win back the audience that has left.
Thomas Dalke says:
The problem with the Christian music industry is that it was patterned after the world. Therefore the god of this world, and the people of it, find a refuge in it. Music form then is not issue, (that’s just a choice). The issue is that we have all strayed far from the true meaning of the cross of Christ.
Randall Goodgame says:
Hey Shaun,
Someone pointed me to this post and I passed it to the worship leaders at Midtown as food for thought. Thanks for breaking it down so well!
My own preference leans toward songs that will still be sung in 25 years, when my kids have kids. I think that may be the biggest loss of the modern worship movement, very few of them add stitches to the fabric of the body over generations.
Songs like In Christ Alone and How Deep The Father’s Love For Us have the lyrical depth and richness to transcend our swiftly changing preferences in style. Whereas, Mighty to Save, and 10,000 Reasons (Bless The Lord) will likely go the way of Shout to the Lord and Lord I Lift Your Name on High.
I’m not saying there’s no value in the modern worship song. I’m just saying we can’t sing ONLY those songs, or there will be no music to bind generations together over time.
Miranda says:
I want to comment as a songwriter and worship leader not leading in a specific church.
Being completely blind since birth, words connect me to the visual world around me, So I love when a songwriter tells a story or provides vivid imagery to describe something. I think you, Andrew Peterson, Phil Wickham, and Mark Schultz are great examples of this.
As far as avoiding cliches, I wonder if so much re-recording popular worship songs has put a damper on the creativity and freshness of worship today. That being said, I do believe lyric simplicity can be effective if used in moderation.
While reading the lyrics from “Stronger”, I tend to believe the hook is not as weakly supported. First, I think our society as a whole views strength as physical strength, political or social power, ETC. Moreover, many times humility is considered weakness. I could not exhibit such strength to be “Humbled to a sinnerโs cross”
“You broke my shame and sinfulness” further shows Christ’s strength to me. Shame and sinfulness have been compared to chains and are very powerful weapons that can hold a person captive as a slave or prisoner (prov 5:22; John 8:34). I do not have the strength to break chains.
I further believe there is strength in victory. When I remember that the Gospel message is about both Christ’s death and resurrection, it is through this that we have victory (1 Cor 15:53-57).
“Faithfulness none can deny
Through the storm and through the fire” again in my opinion exhibit Christ’s strength. I’m sure we all have been “through the storm and through the fire” and can attest to the strength of these circumstances. Moreover, we could also share personal testimonies of how Jesus was stronger than our circumstances.
I agree with your theory as to the reason for the different songwriting rules. I think of participation as I write songs. When leading worship, I tend to drop out music altogether during certain songs and encourage the audience to sing acapella allowing us to focus on the lyrics instead of the distractions of background instruments.
Worship is a lifestyle, and therefore should be about the creator rather than the songs or experience being created. If the Lord is invited to dwell in our praises, these praises should not just spew forth as lipservice from words on a screen.
Do I love every modern worship song? No! Are there a select few modern worship songs I return to as a listener? Yes, but I have been very selective. My husband Andy and I are known to boy cot radio stations altogether and enjoy songs we otherwise would not hear. We have often listened to “Third World Symphony” more than once in a day.
Hymns were not my cup of tea growing up, and I atended churches from Apiscapol to penticostal and everything in between. I have since found a depth and beauty in hymns that is like no other, and I absolutely enjoy the challenge of creatively incorporating them into a worship set!
Richter says:
Shaun, as a long time hockey player myself and professional artist, I loved the title of your article and couldn’t stop reading. Frankly, I didn’t know whether to laugh or cry after finishing it though.
As a member of one of the biggest megachurches in FL, I come home every week feeling sad and empty after “worship”. My wife, who sings on the praise team experiences similar conflict as she wants to use her gifting as a musician, but gets so frustrated with the Jesus Culture-style music that is so empty of musicality and lyrical complexity.
This Sunday we had a great discussion in regards to what it is a songwriter, or more to the point, an artist of any kind, does.
As someone who illustrates for a living, I am hired to present a truth for a product, a book, or company in a visual way that encompasses the complexities and priorities of the product to as many consumers as possible in as memorable a form as possible. The difference between artists who illustrate and those who merely draw a picture is simply “elegance”.
This is not a term of snobbery or superiority. In acknowledging it, I’m not saying I’ve attained it, but I certainly know it when I see it. I am paid to look at things differently – almost abstractly, and re-present that truth from an angle that represents the truth in a different way than most would look at it. But in looking at it that way, it expresses the REALITY of the truth and not just the re-STATEMENT of the truth. A successful illustrator’s representation or illustration of the truth should make it almost MORE truthful than the statement itself could ever accomplish because it illuminates the missing ingredient in didactic teaching – MEANING.
The artist, whether an illustrator like myself, or a songwriter, is charged not with vainly repeating assertions. They are charged to pore over their paper with pencils in hand and a furrowed brow, mining the reality of statements for the ILLUMINATION OF MEANING.
Assembling a series of rhyming religious repetitions over top of a cut and paste chord progression is no more art than someone who draws a picture of a Tide Detergent bottle and says, “you should use this, it works good”.
Think for a moment how little tolerance we would have for an advertisement of such little creativity. When we encounter such bad messaging from secular products, we scoff and feel justly insulted in our intelligence at such lazy communication. Yet, we find similar laziness every Sunday in regards to our God.
Which topic has a greater wealth of truth and wonder in regards to finding new ways to present its reality?
God?
or Tide Detergent?
Procter and Gamble are tireless in their pursuit of brand truth creativity.
How can we as Christians do less for the one who can wash away our sins?
Just my two cents. Thanks for your article, I’ll be passing this around for sure!
Kelli says:
Amazing words, Richter. What a beautiful and concise illustration of art and Truth. Thank you for sharing!
chrismo says:
Well said.
AND:
When an artist is in the strict sense working, he of course takes into account the existing taste, interests, and capacity of his audience. … Haughty indifference to them is not genius nor integrity; it is laziness and incompetence.
– C.S. Lewis
The challenge for corporate worship includes the capacity of the audience in a unique way because they are participating, not just listening, which is why I think this conversation must happen within the context of your particular congregation (see prior comments).
My wife and I volunteer with our church’s recovery program because the Lord has been gracious enough to see us through some difficult times in the last 2 decades. We sometimes experience a bit of frustration having to repeat over and over some very basic truths to those early in their journey, in a way that mirrors my own artistic frustrations. But in both cases, we can’t critique things in isolation, we have to include the audience – same as I have to adjust my parenting to the different ages of my children.
I do really like your comment, it’s a great illustration (har) of the problem, and a call to never take lightly the quality of our work, but it can also be a cheap and easy complaint to make if we aren’t also focused on who’s needing what we make.
A good leader takes their followers to places they need to go without leaving them behind. Sometimes that means 40 years in a desert.
Richter says:
Well said, Chrismo,
Another of my favorites is…
“Any fool can criticize, condemn, and complain, and most fools do”
-Dale Carnegie
Criticism is certainly the easy part, my friend, and I appreciate your point emphatically.
I wonder if I might give an illustration (wink) of how I actually agree with your point while also tying it back to the prior post about elegance.
One of the things that separates great music, art, etc from the common is that it is timeless. This to me, means that it does more than endure, but that it literally engages its audience across time periods in their own lives as well. How often have we come back to great hymns and realized how penetrating a particular line was that we had simply overlooked years prior?
On a non-religious comparison, I’ve always been a fan of Looney Toons and early Bugs Bunny cartoons. I remember as a kid laughing at the slapstick humor, the visual gags, the quick pacing, and funny voices. As I got older, however, I started realizing subtle social commentary, and have, as an adult, found many “I can’t believe they just said that’ moments that simply sailed past me for my first 20 years of life.
The genius of the early writers of those cartoons was that they wrote for the ENTIRE audience simultaneously – both schoolchildren who would laugh at the physical humor and colorful art and also the culturally sophisticated adults who would catch many of the literary references to classic books or even subtle jokes involving classical music riffs (like during the “Barber of Seville”). They assumed that their audience was actually relatively sophisticated culturally in terms of politics, literature, and even music.
The more you knew, the more jokes you caught and the funnier the show became. To this day, those cartoons are timeless because no matter what time of life you watch them, there’s something for you to get.
The same, I think, should be true for sacred music. The more you know about God and Scripture, the more meaning you should find in it. There should be the surface level truth statement that is attainable by anyone. (This is like the slapstick humor and obvious cross-dressing gags) Then the real artistry comes in. Anyone can write a cartoon (or a song) that has that first level where everyone gets it. It takes an artist to write and design two, three, even four levels down to where they are literally speaking to multiple audiences at the same time on their own levels.
The unfortunate reality is that this requires the songwriters and artists themselves to be sophisticated enough to communicate on that 4th level while simultaneously speaking meaningfully to the the other 3 levels.
Unfortunately, when it comes to worship we are more focused on sincerity than sophistication, oddly a much lower standard than the one to which we hold the world. We want the world to speak to us as adults, but worship often speaks to us as infants.
We come “Just As I Am” and stay there…
Brad says:
Wow. This is great. Taking something that is 2d and making it 3d (or 3d to 4d and beyond). Totally agree.
chrismo says:
That’s a great point. I admire Jonatha Brooke because I believe she writes accessible pop that has many sophisticated touches both musically and topically. Metheny does the same for modern jazz with accessible melodies accompanied by dense harmonies, John Williams the same with soundtracks, etc.
I also want to further my prior point a bit. Not only do we have the constraint of the congregation in general to include, but also the performers themselves. Unlike a Looney Tunes production in which the audience is wholly passive, the modern praise composer is creating recipes for mostly amateur chefs. What I produce is not for you to eat, it’s for you to join in the kitchen and help prepare. When you, performer, may have just learned your 4th chord on the guitar, and you, church member, may not care much about harmony, and had a crappy week, going through a divorce, while blowing some money last night in online gambling.
I still agree with your point in general, that we should strive for the deepest of truths and quality, because a true elegant solution speaks on many levels, but I sometimes think us artists don’t remind ourselves of the full picture of constraints and needs to be served.
Of course, each of us needs to be acting appropriately locally. Some may need to push towards deeper lyrics and music, causing some discomfort along the way. Some may need to be more in tuned with the struggles their members are coping with and be content to lay back and make worship a time of predictable comfort.
(I’m having a Pascal moment, wanting this to be shorter, so please forgive the rambling). ๐
Richter says:
Pardon the multiple posts, everyone, but I have another art analogy I wanted to run by you.
In speaking with my wife about this article, I thought of Pablo Picasso.
I was actually very surprised to find out that he was a very talented traditional artist before he began to branch out into his “style”.
He learned and mastered the formal rules of color, composition, form, light, and technique long before he decided to begin “breaking” them as he explored Cubism.
So, as it relates to this article in regards to the Worship “style”, much like the Cubist “style”, the question is…
Is this style of art a function of artistic choice or the result of deficient skills?
Back in art school, our instructors actually discouraged us from forming a recognizable, signature style so early on in our careers. Rather, they encouraged us to master the basics and to increase our understanding of how art and image-making works so that that knowledge could be applied to ANY style later on.
For example, our painting teachers would constantly tell us not to paint with the color “black”, even marking us down if they found that we had used it. We had to mix our own “black” out of other colors and likewise were discouraged from simply lightening colors with white. These were not arbitrary rules, but were meant to help us understand how color works. Colors don’t work in terms of blackening and whitening. They change colors in relation to the color of the light, the surface upon which they were sitting, and even the material of which they are made.
The “rules” of painting were meant to increase our skill as artists, training us to see properly first so that when the time came, we could use whatever paint color we wanted because we knew how color actually worked. But you had to have the knowledge first before you could break the “rules” because you had learned to master your craft.
Many artists later use both black and white to great effect. But the important point is that the effect is intentional, made from knowledge, to achieve the effect the artist INTENDS beforehand.
Otherwise, the decisions you make artistically are not actually “artistic” decisions. In fact, they are not DECISIONS at all. They are simply the outcome of limitations, not artistic INTENTION.
It is the way it is because that’s just the way it came out, not because I intended it or decided to make it that way. I did it that way because I couldn’t do anything else.
I think this, if I understand Shaun’s point correctly, is the gist of the article. Is the “worship style” a result of musical and theological mastery or a result of musical and theological ignorance?
Is the repetition and simplicity musically and lyrically merely a polarizing stylistic decision by a highly skilled artist (like Picasso’s cubism) to purposefully break the rules to reveal something else about art and the way we look at things?
Or is it, as many folks rightly observe something “my kid could do”?
Brad says:
Regarding the limitations of our musicians and congregations…all of these folks can learn. All can be taught. I think this is an area where the Church has fallen down. The culture as a whole has been dumbed down and the Church has been dumbed down with it. What you care about, you’ll put effort into. Plus, most people are much more capable musically than they realize.
As they can, churches should pay to have at least one full-time musician on staff. The bulk of what is said in most sermons isn’t remembered, yet we pay pastors. The music we sing is much more likely to be recalled. Are we putting the same time and resources into it as we do the preaching?
Matthew James Gray says:
And somewhere in Glory, I get the feeling Charles Wesley, Fanny Crosby and Horatio Spafford are just chuckling, rubbing their eyes and shaking their heads…
The point you make about us placating to our low-brow experiential congregations is all the more damning, because the laity in early Methodism were usually less educated, hadn’t been Christians for as long, or as musically inundated as we are today – yet they happily memorised the 10 or 20 verses of incredibly deep worship songs. That’s because they imbibed them – they were an expression of their Spirituality: they were IMAGINING “Bold I approach the eternal throne…”, being taken into it.
We usually can’t be stuffed doing that. We fail to realise that investing in a relationship with God (even in song) is a means of grace – but that this is never cheap grace. Like any relationship, it requires personal investment. Shallow investment means shallow relationship. Worship music – like everything else in the Christian life – is a treasure in the field, and we need to start digging deeper.
Brad says:
Matthew James Gray and Richter, you guys have brought a smile to my face…an unlooked for jolt of joy. Another way I’ve expressed this is that there is a simplicity on *this* side of complexity and there is a simplicity on the *other* side of complexity. It is the simplicity on the other side of complexity that we want.
Brad says:
Richter, ever thought about writing a book on the subject? I’m serious.
Richter says:
Brad, you are too kind, my friend. I am just a normal guy who doodles for a living, but there are a few subjects out there that get me fired up enough to write. I am a painfully slow reader and even slower writer. For me to write anything at length requires a fair bit of persuasion or at the very least frustration.
I’ve got severe A.D.D. as well, so let me just say that it’s a huge credit to Shaun that his article has held my focus for this long!
I was discussing this with my wife last night and one other of Shaun’s points really hit me hard in regards to how many of the modern worship songs are merely cut & pasted phrases from the Psalms. Any number of these phrases could be interchanged with another without much notice from the audience.
When I spoke last year with our worship leader about his methodology in regards to worship music, I think he presented it more in line with the “rebelling against the rules for a reason” motif that is the theme of this article. At the time, I took that for what it’s worth, remembering that at one time, Issac Watts was considered a rebel because he dared to write songs that WEREN’T merely cut and pasted from the Psalms.
And that’s when it hit me…
Modern worship bills itself in many ways as a “PROGRESSIVE” rebellion – breaking rules to push music and worship forward to something NEW.
But, when I thought about Isaac Watts’ struggle as a hymn writer, I realized that much of modern worship’s “rebellion” is actually a REGRESSIVE battle, pushing sacred music back to what Isaac Watts was overcoming – simplistic quoting of what has already been said without further exposition.
At the time, Isaac Watts had to battle against church authority and influence who felt that everything that needed said had been said in the way it needed to be said in Sacred Scripture. Therefore, for music to be Scriptural, it needed to be based on (quoted from) Scripture. So, much of the music of Watts’ day was, (ironically) repetitive, boring, and mostly interchangeable Psalters pulled directly from what David had written thousands of years prior.
(Thank goodness the Bible didn’t come with original paintings or else we’d have never had Michelangelo or the Renaissance!)
But the irony here is that Watts’ desire was to illuminate Scripture, not just quote it. He knew that the power of the message was not just in knowing what the Bible says, but what the Bible means.
Reading the news from a prompter on camera doesn’t make you a journalist, reading the Bible from a pulpit doesn’t make you a preacher, and quoting the Bible in a song doesn’t make you a songwriter.
I think Isaac Watts understood that and I hope modern worship writers come to understand that too.
Stephen says:
I’ve been a little intrigued watching reading how some people are hymn-people and others are modern -music-people.
A fellow Christian was telling me about the hymns they sing at their church and how beautiful they are. We also had a bit of a discussion about more modern music and she very quickly proclaimed that with some of it she felt like the Spirit was drawn back from it. That some of the modern Christian music is definitely not right.
I then asked her a challenging question – What if a couple people were invited to your church, but they only knew modern music and they were so put off by the older hymns that they never came back and thus never found Christ. Her very casual response was “then that’s their problem”.
I was dumbfounded by her answer (I don’t believe she realized what she said and I had no idea what to say at the time), but at the same time, I wondered if any of our churches were any different?
When I was younger I was raised on hymns. I absolutely hated 99.9% of all hymns I have ever heard because I hated the music to them. If they had been read like sermons, I would have been ecstatic. I would have pondered the deep meanings in them with a passion. Music, nope, ruined it for me. I loved sermons. I was there to learn about God and to hear the Word of God. I didn’t understand worship and in my analytical mind, I hadn’t figured out what worship was. Two of the few I did like, even with music were “There’s Power in the Blood” and “Amazing Grace”.
Later in life when I heard more modern Christian music, I was ok with it, but in church, I didn’t like to sing. I despised the sound of my singing voice – I hated singing from a very young age, I just ignored the songs so I could get to the sermon.
One day I’m at church really, really, really wishing the singing would just stop so we could get to the sermon. I started telling God how I hated to sing and how I despised the sound of my voice. The Spirit said 4 simple words to me in the middle of my complaint and now I sing. I have not since complained to God about the music or singing. I now have a better understanding of worship. I still dislike the music which goes to most hymns, but I do sing modern worship songs.
I know I’ve been a little here and there. I figured I’d share a few semi-random thoughts. I enjoyed reading the article and all the comments.
God bless you all.
Oh, those four words which cut me off mid-sentence, stopped me complaining and turned me to singing worship songs? I tear up just thinking about them. He is truly magnificent, well beyond any words in any songs.
“I made your voice.”
Dave says:
Hymns! Ech! These things have become the tradition of the church. Mostly written between 1500’s and 1900s. One chap wrote 2000 hymns – this is considerably more than any current writer will ever produce! They create a religious sense of comfort in their familiarity.
However, do we still prefer literature from 1500 – 1900 over contemporary literature? Do we like the original instrumentation and arrangements of the hymns over contemporary musical arrangements. Do we prefer the static fine art of centuries past over the contemporary film arts of today. No need to reply; the sales figures speak for themselves!
Has God stopped anointing and appointing worship writers? Lets not forget that many of the hymns (golden oldies) that folk love today were reworked versions of popular contemporary works (for the 1800’s). Likewise, some of the hymns we love today were not so popular during their original performances..
Perhaps, we should convert Firework into a P&W song… Firework is, of course, only one example. Churches are already hybridising U2 and ColdPlay but perhaps we should take it further and create our version of modern hymns ie convert When I Ruled the World into When You Ruled the World…
Larry says:
I’m coming late to this discussion, but I’m grateful that someone is pointing out that, on occasion, “the emperor has no clothes!”. I attend a larger church in the Nashville area noted for its choir and music. I love much of it. But many of the worship choruses lack a good (singable) melody, harmony, and depth of meaning. Often they are pitched too high for the people in the pew, although the professionals are comfortable with it. I’m afraid that too often the whole cake is made of frosting; that is, lacking depth of meaning and singability. Too much of the congregation is observing, not participating. But when they sing a hymn, or even a more melodious praise song, watch them come alive! I guess I prefer chewing on meat to slurping pablum….
Luke (Deep Roots Library) says:
Very good thoughts, Shaun, thanks for thinking deeper than most about this.
I agree with your ending premise, that writing for the experience in corporate worships is different than a regular song, not only when you’re thinking about lyrics, but also singable melodies as well. Two different things
Do you think that this is also the reason for the lack of creativity in the melodies, as well? We’ve all heard those worship songs that are so predictable, because the chord structure isn’t any different from the last three albums.
I second Matthew’s post that Sovereign Grace is running a good balance between the two, as well as Indelible Grace and related artists. Maybe it’s really something to do with having a name ending in “grace”! ๐
Carl says:
Thinking about the purpose of bridges, lyrics, etc., and about what makes a genre a genre…
If not all songs are ballads, and hymns aren’t ballads, what is a worship song that isn’t a hymn? I don’t want a worship song to be a ‘dear diary’ emo-ish thing, either, although an inspiring set of self-absorbed reflections may indeed make a good song and perhaps an inspirational portrayal of an inward journey.
If a song (particularly a ballad) tends to tell a story, and some worship music may rightly tell a story in a song-like way, what kind of story-telling is appropriate? A bridge might be effective for certain types of development.
When I am on the worship team, I want to help others enter into God’s presence, to lead them in praise, to direct them to think of God. Maybe from time to time a worship song goes on an inward journey or goes through a story and weaves back and forth and that doesn’t distract from worship and focusing on God and praising God — but a lot of music that people find inspirational or religiously meaningful, isn’t quite worship or praise music, it’s something else.
Just some thoughts.
Mark Snyder says:
Hey Shaun,
I don’t mind the repetitive bridge part if it is paired with thoughtful lyrics in the verse/chorus and some good writing practices there. And I don’t mind some repetitiveness in the words if it exists to point people to the bible and a passage that sits there that may connect people with God’s word. Emotional melodies are OK – great pop songs have them and people love to sing them. What I think, collectively, we do not strive for is great rhyme schemes with creative lyrics tied to the emphasis of the melody and music to create prosody. We also struggle with focus, allowing most of a song’s energy to focus on us rather than god.
Thanks for a great and thought provoking article. These always seem to provoke a good discussion and a good ‘rant fest’. What I am not sure of is how many individual decisions made by worship leaders to add songs to set lists will be changed. I know Joshua Sellers, who posted above, has been involved in a movement in Canada called Worship Rises, to get some alternatives into churches there that has had some success.
As a writer, producer, and worship technologist, I have focused my personal efforts on trying to find paths to worship leaders for great independent songs that are more direct than the current CCM/CCLI industry. This is the heart behind what we do at WorshipSong, which is a platform that is crowd sourced and equally accessible by all, but which tends to have songs get noticed based on merit and easy availability of resources to use them.
The set list is where we need to focus effort. Set lists I survey are so repetitive and so dominated by a few artists and songs, and it is self perpetuating. By finding more direct ways to put music in peoples hands and make it easy for them to adopt it – that’s a way to start making a difference. Over time I expect it will change.
If you are a frustrated writer on this thread – take the long view. Pursue your art, hone your craft, put it out there. Make it sound it’s best when you share it and spread it around. Take advantage of free platforms. Put your resources out. There are connections to be made with people who need your music. Just make sure it is the best you can make it and pursue them.
Barry Gentry says:
Thank You…I think you have pretty well explained why I don’t listen to Worship Music. Yes, I am in my 70’s, have a classical music background, and I totally understand and agree with you! In recent years I have turned to writing my own music and don’t really expect it to be popular; it is quite a different genre in this day and age. I put the tales and parables of Jesus into an old folk ballad guitar and vocal story-telling form. A real string double-bass is the only accompaniment. The people and children of our local small churches seem to like the songs.
Sibelius and other songwriting software may have made it too easy for us and we have forgot, or never have learned the fundamentals of writing good music.
Paige says:
I’m so thankful I go to a congregation of people who have music leaders who sing loud and repeat the beautiful message that Jesus is alive and full of compassion and grace. My 11 year old son with ADD and whose father who passed away was full of anger and bitterness. The simple truth of those lyrics are beginning to soak into his grief stricken soul. My friend whose family abandoned her is beginning to believe again that there is hope and God does love her. Now I’m passionate about taking that message of the gospel to hurting people all around me. We can listen to all the great, deep hymns anytime we want to…at home, in the car, on our ipods. It’s not about us. It’s about Jesus and sharing the truth with others. I’m thankful Jesus emptied Himself and humbled Himself to become a man.
Thomas Dalke says:
Though everyone has personal likes and dislikes about worship styles, clothing, songwritting, and just about anything else, when people make these (not essential to the faith, and or, non-moral preferences) a cause for dissension amongst believers, they error, by far you have written the most selfless entry in this thread in a while (Phil 2:3-4).
Christine says:
Sometimes I have noticed worship songs violate the rules of songwriting when the last word sung does not resolve to the key of the song. It used to be you could tell what key a song was in by looking at the last note of the melody. Some songs wait to the outro to resolve, and it drives me crazy.
The Wonderful Cross, for instance, the last word of the chorus ends on the V chord with the melody note on the fifth of the V chord. The song then resolves to the root chord in the next measure.
Those singing in the congregation are left hanging.
It also forces the use of the outro before transitioning to the next song. It’s one of those things thats just ends up awkward.
Evron Sampson says:
First let me say that I am a LAY person in every sense of the word. I’m not musically educated nor am I annointed or santified and I don’t even have a title. I grew up Southern Baptist, left church for many years of my life and only came back to church when I had a child that I felt guilty for not having in church. God uses all kinds of things to get his children back to him. That was 12 years ago. I sing and play the piano just enough to get me in trouble. I understand that many of you are educated worship leaders and I’m way out of my league here but here goes. I came back to church when (around here at least) contemporary was just emerging on the scene. Wearing blue jeans to church was becoming accepted on Sunday mornings only in the cool new contemporary services. I believe that opened the door to many people that “traditional church mindset” had left out. So I think that the move to “contemporary” music in church wasn’t in and of itself the issue, but it was the whole mindset that seemed to go along with it. All that being said, a lot of the posts above, to me at least, sound like the same things that I heard when I first came back to church, only then it was same sentiment, different words and aimed at hymns. Right at the time we were struggling with traditional vs blended vs contemporary. We have about 50 in our congregation. I am on our praise team and have become through no intentional devices of my own the “worship leader” (I think probably because I’m bossy and talk a lot) We have a guitar, sometimes a keyboard, a bass, and sometimes drums. We are not working with paid or professional musicians so a lot of our music is picked by: first what is the message of the song and two can we pull it off. We do all kinds of songs on Sunday mornings. We write some of our own, we even use some secular songs if it fits the message we are trying to get across. As a lay person I don’t really care how a song is written. In corporate worship it has to be easy to sing and it has to say something. I like a song that can speak to anyone walkng in the door, whether they know God or not, ever been to church before or not. We talk as if our Sunday morning worship is only for christians. I think songs like, Never let go or More like falling in love or even Jesus is the Rock that rolls my blues away as well as any other song regardless of type, that anyone can identify with and connects them to a path leading to Christ is good. I think sometimes it doesn’t really matter exactly WHAT you do, but more, that you willing to do it. We sing Amazing Grace to the tune of sweet home Alabama. To the unchurched or de-churched that may be something that opens the door for them. To the ones that think thats going to send us all to hell in a handbasket.They already have their own pew. I just remember what it feels like to walk in bewildered and not have any idea what a real relationship with Christ or a church family feels like and not having any idea what my ebenezer was.
Jeff Q says:
Interesting article, but I’m a little disappointed that the comments have went in the direction of “new worship music doesn’t have anything to offer.” Obviously, the hymns we all love so much were new at some point and probably rubbed the establishment the wrong way. I don’t want to get off track here, but I think most worship leaders try to prayerfully select songs for the congregation. I know I do. We pray for God’s direction… maybe it’s leading the congregation in a different direction to stretch them a little bit. It’s disheartening to think that those in attendance stuff their hands in their pockets and decide that they don’t feel like worshipping because of the song choices.
Again, I don’t want to get off track and turn a songwriting post into a new vs old debate, but I wonder what everyone thinks about giving the Lord a “sacrifice” of praise? Can your soul not put some feeling behind words like “great, majesty, loving, etc?” Now if you want to get into extremes, yes, singing the same phrase over and over is ridiculous. Nobody would defend that. Except maybe the person 3 seats over who is really feeling His presence when he says “You are my king..” over and over.
Back to the song writing issue. I know you hinted at this in your post, but I know some of the bigger songwriters (Tomlin, Ingram) have mentioned being intentionally simple. I don’t think it’s necessarily a bad thing since they are doing it on purpose. I think they could write more complex melodies/progressions, but don’t feel like that it was they are called to do. Some are (Gungor, JM McMillan) for instance.
Anyway, good thought-provoking post. One final note…..if you don’t like your church’s song selection, approach your worship leader respectfully and find out a little bit more about his/her process. If their heart is in the right place, they will love to hear you feedback, good or bad.
Norm says:
Shaun,
I really appreciate this topic you discussed in your article. Music in the church is one of those things that can get people hot and bothered very quickly. When I was in seminary, one of my professors said that for most people, their view of what should or should not be used in the worship service goes something like this:
“I don’t know much about it, but I know what I like.”
As you mentioned, “art” is sometimes not only difficult to define, it is also downright dangerous to discuss because people get very attached to a style or writer/composer, etc.
I agree with everything Brad said earlier about how music that is going to be used to worship God, should be the best we have to offer. I think we sometimes forget that the focus of our worship is supposed to be GOD, not us.
By that I don’t mean that the music or the lyrics cannot be attractive to us – I just mean that our intent is to bring a musical offering to the Lord, so why not present our very best – the best music we can create and perform, the best lyrics we can write – all to express the great Truths about our Creator.
I think that the emotional experience oftentimes becomes the focus rather than a by-product of expressions of God’s truth.
When I hear a text that actually expresses theological truth in a clear and compelling way, wedded to a tune that enhances the meaning of that text – that is what, I think, can move us to emotional heights because it focuses our mind, our heart on who God is, what He has done, and how absolutely wonderful He is toward us.
There have been times when in the midst of leading a song or singing in a choir that I just could not continue because I was so emotionally overwhelmed with the truth and glory and beauty of what we were singing.
I guess what I’m trying to say is that, we need to remember that we not only worship God with our hearts, but also with all our heart, soul, and MINDS.
There is nothing wrong with emotion and experience, but if that is the goal, if that is our purpose rather than creatively expressing God’s truth – then I think we are off base. And, great worship music does not have to be complicated – for example, “Jesus Loves Me” or “Amazing Grace”.
Anyway, just my thoughts – I’ve loved reading others as well. Very timely subject and thanks again for bringing it up, Shaun. God bless you.
Brent Hardesty says:
I couldn’t agree more. I think we have dumbed-down the craft to create an experience. I have wondered these same things. I spent four years in a Broadway writers workshop in New York and false rhymes were forbidden…misplaced accents were not allowed and yet, as a composer/lyricist and worship leader, I have to present music to my congregation that ignores any rules of writing good songs. I often wonder how they get through the “filter” to become the “CCLI” top ten.
Lyrics are often trite and I find myself bored with the cliches I’ve heard time and time again.
I have a theory too. I have lived through the Spiritual renewal of the late sixties and seventies when Maranatha was providing some well-written choruses that were…may I use the word…”annointed.” What we are lacking here is a great revival in Church music that will birth not only great songs, but songs that rise out of true repentance. I always tell my team…beware when you see worship advertised on TV for $11.99 as if it was another Ronco product.
When I was was in New York I used to wonder why the Christian song writers weren’t spending the same amount of time and effort on lyrics and melody…chord structures…that these talented people around me were spending. I know there are places that do but I am speaking generally now.
I don’t mean this to indict all contemporary worship. I have been part of this for thirty years. Every once in a while I come across a song or two that moves me again and I put my weekly set together and move on knowing that revival will soon come.
I love this kind of dialog…there simply isn’t enough of it going on. We are all too busy trying to make it through the next week.
Thanks for allowing me to vent. I do appreciate all those musicians and worship leaders out there who are in the trenches doing the real work of the music ministry week after week. God see our efforts and will reward us.
John Mark Solomon says:
Shaun,
thanks for great article. your words re: generic vs specific references sound like those of Clive Staples Lewis in the last paragraph of “Mere Christianity”… “Even in literature and art, no man who bothers about originality will ever be original: whereas if you simply try to tell the truth (without caring twopence how often it has been told before) you will, nine times out of ten, become original without ever having noticed it”.
Nothing like an “Amen” the other side!
Jason Bell says:
Every genre of music, and therefore songwriting, was, at some point in time, new. So it doesn’t necessarily make a form of writing ‘bad’ just because it is different.
Modern worship (contemporary service music, K-Love etc.) does tend to be generic, and it is refreshing to hear a recording that is gritty, acoustic or otherwise original. But here I am expressing my own musical taste (just as if I declare that I like Radiohead).
What modern worship music does very well, is reach the ‘unreached.’ Take asong like ‘Overcomer’ by Mandisa, for instance. What a powerful song. So simple, using chords we have heard forever. But it can deliver us, and remind us of God’s power that lives in us.
So my point? We shouldn’t knock great worship music. Check out the live recording of ‘How Great is our God’ by Mr. Tomlin. It is so simple, all there is to do…is realize who the song is about- and surrender to Him and worship.
Peace,
JBell