In 2002 I was nominated for five Dove Awards. Those nominations stood no chance of becoming wins though. A slanted voting process has sapped the Dove Awards of meaning and credibility for me and so many other informed artists. But recent changes made by the Gospel Music Association may be a move toward greater meaning.
Just as artists sign contracts with record labels, record labels enter into contracts with distribution companies for an agreed upon split of revenues and for a set length of time. My first record, released in 2001, was with now-defunct Rocketown Records. Rocketown distributed its records, mine included, through Word Distribution.
When the first round of 2002 Dove Award voting took place, Word Distribution employees – hundreds of them – were “encouraged” to vote for me and my album. And so I was undeservingly nominated in several categories.
But between the nomination process and final voting, Rocketown informed Word Distribution that it would not be renewing its distribution deal with the company. During that same period, INO Records, who represented the very talented Sara Groves (no relation) and Mercy Me among others, committed to a long-term distribution deal with Word.
Before final voting, an e-mail was sent out from on-high at Word Distribution to managers encouraging them to encourage their staff to vote for INO artists and albums in several categories. Rocketown artists were not recommended in any categories. (One of these managers forwarded the e-mail to me with his sincere apologies.) A Dove Award win is a publicity opportunity, a sticker on the next album release, a marketing bullet point. Dove Award wins for INO artists in 2002 would profit Word in the future, whereas wins for Rocketown would not. For the first time in five years, Rocketown didn’t win a single Dove Award and for the first time in history an artist with five nominations walked away empty-handed.
It is easy to predict who will win in each Dove Award category if you can add.. Each artist benefits from the cumulative block voting of his record label, his label’s “secular” owner (Universal, Sony, etc), his publisher and his label’s distribution company. The artist with the largest companies behind him wins unless those companies have numerous artists in a category. In such a case company votes are sometimes split, allowing an artist with smaller companies behind him to win.
No earthly award gives an artist value in any Christian sense of the word but Dove Awards, because of this numbers game, don’t measure artist or artistic value in any secular sense of the word either. It is simply an award given to the artist who has signed a contract with the record label that has signed contracts with companies who have the most employees.
But recently, the Gospel Music Association has made comprehensive changes in membership and voting practices which may add meaning to the annual doling out of the bronze bird. Or at least a dash of fairness.
The Gospel Music Association knows block voting takes place and that this practice gives an unfair advantage to large companies able to pay GMA membership fees for hundreds of employees. So it is allowing companies to pay GMA membership dues for no more than 75 employees. Of course, an infinite number of employees at any company could join the GMA and vote in-step with the “encouragement” of superiors as long as these employees pay membership fees themselves.
In addition, Dove Award voting will now use the Borda count method – a voting process in which voters rank nominees by preference. This, in theory, forces industry employees to vote for second, third, fourth and fifth place preferences who may not be affiliated in any way with their company. This “consensus voting” could dilute the influence of block-voting companies and increase the power of votes cast by retailers, radio stations and other GMA members.
I wonder: Are the Dove Awards meaningful to you? More meaningful now that these changes have been made? Do you care who wins or how they do it? Why or why not? Leave a comment.
Jason says:
I stopped caring about the Doves the minute I found out about the block voting. To me, that means the Doves are nothing but corrupt. The changes seem to be an attempt to make it appear they’re trying to keep block voting from happening but it’s just going to continue. Companies will find ways to make employees join even if it’s a “bonus” for something else that just happens to cover membership costs.
Tanya says:
I had no idea how this voting worked. So thanks for being bold with the truth.
I think this move by the GMA is honorable but SO wish that the industry would move away from these types of awards and begin to measure the value of artistic work by cultural impact in the way of fruit produced in people’s lives. I wish the focus was on Christ’s charge to feed the sheep instead of celebrating the size of the fold.
Christine says:
The whole awards show concept is just distasteful to me and it has been for several years now. When I was going to school for costume design 15 years ago the Academy Awards were like our national holiday. But as I’ve gotten older, I can’t stomach any of them, the Doves included, which I think irritates me the most because there’s a part of me that thinks on some level (erroneously, I know) that the Doves should be above all that corrupt petty [email protected] you talk about above but they just aren’t.
For all the reasons you point out and more, awards shows just seem like such pointless excess to me, regardless of which industry is congratulating itself. I will admit that I’m not above getting sucked into the parade of pretty dresses every now and again, but even that oftentimes leaves me more depressed than anything else. What is the point exactly? All these new awards shows…the Espys, really? It’s not enough for a team or an individual to win a championship by virtue of their play on the field/court, now they have the chance to win an award for being what, the coolest team to win an award? I’m only 40…but I swear I just don’t get it.
But I have to admit Shaun, the post left this spelling bee kid giggling a little bit…when you talk about the now “defunked” Rocketown Records. The groove, the soul, the mojo – they’re all still there. But the funk, that’s now gone. Hee! I know you meant the now “defunct”, as in no longer functioning, Rocketown Records. But “defunked” is just so much cooler, especially for a music label! 😉
Shaun Groves says:
Oops. I hate it when the funniest thing I say all day is an accident ; ) Off to re-funk Rocketown and defunct them instead.
Brad says:
This just made my day! Defunked!
JavaJoy says:
Thanks for the sharing the giggle Christine 🙂
Katie says:
To me, Dove awards don’t matter much. I hear radio ads all the time, “Four-time Dove award winner…” and whatnot but I don’t really pay attention. However, if an artist I like wins an award, I am happy for him/her and what I had previously regarded as a congratulations for a job well done. This new knowledge even strips that little celebration.
Sorry about your history-making experience…
Katie
JessicaB says:
I honestly don’t know anything about the Doves so they don’t mean anything to me personally. Then again, I don’t really know anything about any of the popularity contest award shows.
Would it be unbearably too cheesy for an “You’ve got MY vote!”, right here?
Yes? Okay, then – carry on.
Inkling says:
That’s a bummer. I’ve never been someone who gets on the bandwagon with the biggest fan base or most marketed bands. I prefer to find artists whose lyrics are meaningful, who are composing truly beautiful music, and who aren’t susceptible to the whims of the rat race directors. So that means I usually pick artists who aren’t heard on most Christian radio. That all happened after i spent a year working and living in Franklin and had my eyes opened to how it had become more of a business and less of a ministry, and I saw how heavily marketed artists gained fame for songs written by less marketed artists who had been performing them for years (e.g. Chris Tomlin vs. Laura Story). It was a little bit disillusioning to say the least. I guess we’ll have to wait until Heaven to see the purity and beauty of music without the marketing money machines directing it all.
Jenn says:
For all the reasons discussed here before (about the CCM industry, etc), I give the Dove Awards very little attention. I feel like the same people/groups win every year, and the ones who win are the ones you hear over and over and over again on the radio. Their music can often be formulaic and sometimes filled with watered-down or questionable theology, and they all sound the same. (Yes, I said “they all sound the same” which is a complete and unfair generalization. But seriously, it’s either Third Day, Casting Crowns, or someone doing another remake of a Hillsong number.)
I was secretly happy this past time when one of my favorite groups didn’t win. I felt like they kept some of their “street cred.”
And I agree with the above sentiment that there is something a little squicky about Christian artists having an awards show. I can’t even say why exactly… I guess I don’t understand the point?
Shaun Groves says:
Squicky? I like that very much. Hmmm, what rhymes with squicky?
Jenn says:
Icky, Ricky, tricky… nothing very good or musical.
Doesn’t it just mess with you to think about what God knew way back then when you thought you were “just” losing a Dove award? Can you imagine how different your life would be if you had won?
Kelli says:
Picky…
Try this lyric to the tune of Shout the the Lord: “Man, he can be soooooo picky. But God, He will never judge unfair.”
Huh? Huh?
*sigh*
This is why I’m a novelist and not a song writer. If you do, however, manage to ever work that into a song, I want royalties…
Shaun Groves says:
I’ve thanked God many times for those five losses.
JessicaB says:
Sticky?
God’s love is kindy of … sticky. Right? :/
Elizabeth says:
Plicky.
You know, the sound a guitar makes when you pick the strings above the nut or below the bridge.
Possible song titles:
Gettin’ Plickywit’it
Plicky Chicken (a la’ Little Feat)
Plickytown (for the funkster)
keith says:
They are not meaningful to me. The music I like is not that popular, so I can’t trust a popularity contest to introduce me to music that I may enjoy.
Beth says:
They’re pretty meaningless to me and now that I understand the process more, they are even more so. Being a “Dove Award Winner” has never impacted my listening preferences. The bird doesn’t sing.
I recently quit listening to the big, international, on all over the world station because I just couldn’t stomach the same 12 songs over and over anymore. I’m sure that Chris Tomlin or MercyMe could cover “Twinkle, twinkle, little star” and get air play! My local Christian, even with ad spots, plays a huge variety of music that is left up to each air personality to choose. Some are very popular artists, others not so much, very diverse and musically superior to “Big Macs.”
Tina says:
Yes, yes yes to the being sick of the same 12 songs over and over and over. I’m so tempted to email/call in and say “STOP PLAYING THE SAME SONGS!!!” I’ll listen for a time, get sick of it and go to my iPod. But not a good way to get to hear new music.
But to the topic at hand, I never saw the Dove Awards and it was easy to notice when people cited the winners that the “most popular” won all the time. So my first thought at the comment about the change was “Maybe new voices will win and be heard on the mega-station?” (Since for many of us there are not many options.
JoJo says:
How can you say you were “undeservingly nominated…”? Are you crazy? There’s humility then there’s just silly. The substance of your music far surpasses many of the artists in contemporary Christisan music. You were, and are, just as worthy of being nominated (and to win an award, for what it’s worth) as any other artist, if not more so.
Shaun Groves says:
I think that first record was good. Not amazing. Certainly not my best. It wouldn’t have surprised me to see it nominated for New Artist of the Year. But all the other nominations? No way. Completely undeserved.
But thank you for the kind words. I do appreciate you taking the time to type them.
jeffrey says:
I think your first album is still your best. The new one gives it a run for its money, but your first is one of my all-time favourite albums. It has the right balance of rock, pop and balladry for me,
Rebecca says:
I have never been big on any type of award shows–don’t watch any of them. I agree with the few people before me who have said there is just a certain….ick factor to Christian…popularity contests. It just seems one more way to show the world how un-different we are. Same games and corruption as everywhere else. Wow–that sounds really negative.
Basically, I generally like music that is not in the mainstream. And character and integrity mean A LOT to me. Live it. Case it point–I had never heard any of your music when I decided to support your new albulm. I supported YOU. It may be a bit funny but my kids know Mr. Shaun as a blogger–someone who has helped to show them the world through Compassion. When we finally all listened to the album in the car together they were so excited–“Wow, Mom, and he can sing too?” Awesome! I still laugh at that.
sara varghese says:
dove awards? is that when the dove came back to Noah and he let it rest up until the next day?
Kelly Garrison says:
This could be slightly off but I worked in the country music industry for a number of years. One particular artist I worked for had our office (business admin) vote very specifically. Which i always thought was unfair…I wanted to vote for who I thought deserved the great CMA or ACM. But I moved to a large publishing company who gave me a CMA membership. For several years I voted for who I wanted. BUT I do recall at one point people in the office being told to e-mail their CMA passcodes and id’s to a certain person so that block voting could be done. No matter what steps the CMA has tried to take to curb block voting, it still remains. It’s a practice that should be looked at across the board in every genre.
Brad says:
I have mixed feelings on the Doves that I just can’t resolve. I always like it when an artist I like and support wins. However, like others have said I’m just not sure what place such awards should have in Christian music. If it were not overblown and if the voting were fair, if more of the focus of the evening went to artists ministry and how they are affecting the world for the gospel, then that would be really exciting!
JavaJoy says:
Back when I first started listening to Christian music, I paid attention to the Dove awards, but that was 15 years ago and now I don’t care at all. I can see how new listeners to Christian music would be influenced by an artist winning a Dove Award.
krisyoursis says:
Okay, so I grew up a total CCM nerd. While other middle school girls had New Kids on the Block and MilliVanilli posters in their room, I had begged the local Christian bookstore for their no-longer-used promo display from the (first) WOW1990-whatever album. I had Steven Curtis Chapman, Sandi Patti, Wayne Watson, Amy Grant, Smitty, and DC Talk all stapled to my bedroom wall. At that tender young age, I had no clue about the voting process. I was just really glad to get to see “my” music being played on TV once a year, while all my friends could turn on MTV and watch theirs. At this point, praise the Lord, I’ve grown up a little, and I appreciate artists who give a message, not just with their music for bird statues, but with their LIVES–for the glory of God and the expansion of His Kingdom. I tend to listen more to people I’ve actually met because I know they’re legit…that means I listen to a lot of you and Miss Pattycake and Charlie Hall, but that’s okay. 🙂
nancytyler says:
I cared about the Doves when friends were nominated or won because it was good for their careers but it hasn’t mattered to me since.
BTW, I still have the recording of your Dove Awards show performance from ’02. For a small fee, I will keep it off YouTube 😉
Cathy says:
For a small fee would you put it on YouTube?? I would be willing to pay to see it!
Sara McNutt says:
So I rarely every comment but I just had to on this one. I can’t handle the Dove Awards, even though I know nothing about them. Squicky is right; we’re supposedly all about the glory of the Lord…except let’s make sure other people recognize and praise us for it. I can’t handle the celebritydom we live in. In the NT the church leaders and “famous” ones were the ones taking all the heat and being severely persecuted. Nowadays the church leaders and leading song artists and authors are celebrities and we get to hear all about how amazing they are all the time. I can’t handle it. Which is why when that one famous Christian singer offered me his autograph, I wanted to roll my eyeballs into my cerebral vortex and then puke on his boarding pass. Just my $0.02.
Stacy says:
Honestly, I could not name a single Dove award winner. I have never watched the awards show. I don’t keep up with who won what or who sold how many in any genre. I just listen to the music I love.
But it does sound….just wrong. And more importantly I don’t think it pleases God.
Deb says:
“Honestly, I could not name a single Dove award winner. ”
Oh yes you could. Ever hear of that guy Steven Curtis Chapman? He has about a billion Doves. 😉
Brady says:
Is there a “people’s choice” for the Christian industry?
Shaun Groves says:
The iTunes Gospel chart ; ) Seriously, the people’s choice is the one that sells the most.
FzxGkJssFrk says:
I mostly stopped caring after I lived in Nashville for a couple of years.
I reeeeaaally stopped caring after a band named after a building won New Artist of the Year for an inexplicably overplayed lame hit single.
GoCards44 says:
I guess I didn’t realize that they still give out the Dove awards, but to say you shouldn’t have been nominated – come on! You say the first wasn’t your best, which is fine to say, but it was pretty darn good (… except I don’t get Satellite musically). In fact, I wouldn’t have listened to your music without that one.
I personally think that the new record (can we still call them records?) is better – Dove or no Dove.
JD says:
I didn’t know much about the Dove awards, I’d simply heard the term before. It all sounds kind of like the cliques in high school :o{ Imagine if they all took the $75 fees and the cost of the award shows and donated it to “58. Fast. Forward” or Compassion? That’d get MY vote!
The best way I know to vote fairly is to purchase the albums/songs of the artists whose songs I am grateful for, whose message speak Truth and helps me grow and whose work I can relate to. If that never gets them on a stage to receive earthly treasures, that’s ok — God’ll take care of that when we get Home.
I’ve been known to buy several copies of the same album from my most fav artists. Guess that might be considered messing with the votes, though, oops :p
cshell says:
Good post, thought provoking. I always liked watching award shows as a kid and seeing my “favorite band/singer” win an award. As an adult not so much, now i like to hear what they have to say in their acceptance speech and judge their hearts by what I think they portray (brutal honesty).
My family and I just had the priviledge of meeting and spending some time with Steven Curtis Chapman…i don’t care how many record number winning Doves he has won…seeing and hearing that man’s heart worn on his sleeve and hearing his heart longing to be face to face with his Saviour is really all that matters.
I was life-changing for me.
Becky says:
Wow! Totally fascinating. I learned in my college music major classes that anyone who signed with a big Christian label would ultimately be controlled by a secular industry. This is a fascinating example of that. I hope the big companies don’t just give the rest of their hundreds of employees a special “bonus” which are meant to be earmarked for GMA dues.
Shaun Groves says:
I don’t agree with your professor’s statement about artists being controlled by their label’s owner. Not true in my opinion.
Judy says:
Very interesting! I didn’t know about Block voting until this year. Someone blogged about it just after the GMA’s this year… that’s kind of unfair.
I also loved what Tenth Avenue North said after winning New Artist of the Years a few years ago, Mike held up the award and said something like… We will cast this at Jesus’ feet one day too.
I think it’s cool when one of my favourite artists wins, but I will have my faves regardless of who wins, because some of The Best don’t win and aren’t even nominated!
Also seems silly for Christians to place their worth on awards from other humans… I know that the award winning sells the records.
I love that Jesus didn’t love me based on my performance!
Teena says:
Watched them years ago… but never watch now. Do not think much about them.
Didn’t know all your shared. Seems really silly… not like an award at all.
Oh, I have been sharing clips from Third World Symphony on my blog.
My kids sing along to the cd. Did you get my email?
Thanks for all you do. Hope you have a concert soon somewhere in the south!
grace,
Teena
Beth says:
No, the Doves, like Christian radio, have never entirely represented the artists whose music I love to listen to and support. Christian radio leaves out so many good and talented Christian musicians, it’s like listening to a revolving wheel of many of the same artists, but there is so much more out there. This truly is sad, because people are missing out on some amazing art being released by wonderful artists. So we as the consumer have to be more diligent in seeking out the music and musicians we love, and I for one am not swayed to do this by the Dove’s or radio. I stumble upon artists I enjoy most by word of mouth online, friends’ recommendations, or online links.
Matt Blick says:
Jenn nailed it for me.
There’s a bigger discussion about ‘Christian’ awards full stop, but re the Doves I expect Doves winners to be very bland, mainstream, middle of the road, American major label artists. I would NEVER check out an act just because they won a dove.
Anyway isn’t giving someone the bird a bad thing?
Shaun Groves says:
I thought for sure we’d get that joke sooner than this. Congrats ; )
Zoë says:
Never heard of it. But I like what I like anyway, musically, so even if I had it wouldn’t really mean anything to me.
All the kids you’ve helped through Compassion don’t care whether or not you’ve won an award. Your music is good because it is good. You don’t need a prize to know that. 🙂
Mark Geil says:
Thanks for the interesting update and backstory. If I may, a few words in support of the Dove Awards…
Take away the awards part for a moment, and the event is in some ways like a big family reunion. It’s the only time so many in the industry gather all at once, all in the same place. I’ve met some wonderful folks and made lasting friendships at Doves and GMA Weeks, and while I get that there are distasteful parts of the industry, and that it’s run by humans, I do think Kingdom work is accomplished in some of this.
But what of the awards? Yes, it’s weird, and a little creepy, for people who follow the humble Christ to hand out awards to each other. Would I prefer everyone get together once a year to do a big benefit concert? Sure. But I suppose that would inevitably wind up with its own problems too, so I’ll take what I can get. The performances are fun, the speeches are sometimes worth a listen, and I have encountered new music through the event. I don’t listen to much Gospel or Southern Gospel music, so I enjoy the sampling I get at the Doves. If the block voting Shaun mentioned can be curtailed, all the better. It’s probably unrealistic to wish the Doves more closely represented my own musical tastes because, well, they’re my own, and I’m but one of many.
The Dove Awards are an artifact of an industry many of us wish could exist without being an “industry”, but I still look forward to them every year.
shayne says:
Dude, I haven’t watched the Dove Awards since, like, ever.
I could care less. I don’t know why anyone would.
Ethan says:
Thanks. 🙂
Cathy says:
I’ve never watched the Dove Awards or payed much attention to who wins. I did pay attention to the tweets of several artists during the show this year. I un-followed a couple because of the way they behaved. Now I think I understand a little better what was going on.
In general, I’m a little disheartened with the business of “Christian” music. I know a lot of major-label artists do a lot of good things and play good music, but it’s frustrating to me that I can’t hear your music on our local station because your albums aren’t selling at our local bookstore.
I hear way to much fluff on the radio and not enough music with real meaning.
Sigh. My two-year old just saved you and your readers from the rest of my rant.
Jason says:
WOW! What an eye opener. I had no idea this sort of thing was going on.
valerie says:
I knew absolutely nothing about how the Dove Awards worked before this post. Now I see that they may be somewhat meaningless, but I don’t think that’s cause for (mainly commenters’) insinuating that recipients are untalented or undeserving. Because an artist has signed with a big label doesn’t make them less talented or un-Christian. I don’t pay any attention to – or really even know – who wins, but I do know that many who have won in the past are in fact very talented and actually do really love Jesus. Let’s not over-generalize.
Melody Joy King says:
I have mixed feelings about the Doves to be honest. I was completely unaware of the unfair/imbalanced voting tactics taking place. Now I get what all the fuss about Natalie Grant is. ;0) I kid, I kid, I do like some of her stuff. Anyway, I digress. I think my favorite Dove moment of all time was when Steven Curtis Chapman was awarded the Dove for Artist of the year after they lost their precious little girl Maria. His acceptance speech was so beautiful and spot on. I just watched it again on youtube and teared up all over again.
Deni Gauthier says:
Yes… Thank you for being upfront and HONEST. From a full time recording artist in Canada (with no label support), I agree that there is too much deception in the music industry. (Christian or non)
There have been systems that allow big players to market their key players and help them along the path… awards is one of them. Keep in mid also, I really don’t mind, but the chances of me winning a Dove is nill.
I for one will continue to record music and make new friends one at a time that will help support my livelihood.
Nice post Shaun!