You’re so used to hearing vocals that have been over-tuned by a computer that when you hear a natural vocal you may think it sounds bad. Such was the case when one radio programmer heard my second album Twilight. He told the label it sounded like a demo.
Most vocals I hear on the radio these days are over tuned – for my taste. They sound digitized. And here’s why.
What happens is the vocal is fed through a program and displayed on the producer’s screen as a wave. You can literally see the peaks and troughs, the changes in pitch. And the thing is, no human voice is without these peaks and troughs. They make a human voice sound human.
So, when a producer wants to “fix” the pitch he can do this in a number of ways. He can take away those peaks and troughs so that the vocal is more of a straight line on his screen – which makes it sound digitized to my ears. Or he can keep the peaks and troughs intact and move them all up or down slightly toward the right note.
Using the first method kills expression and dynamics and allows any beautiful half-naked girl to sell records.
I prefer the second method.
Well, I prefer singing in tune. But if I miss and we absolutely must use that miss because it’s the most expressive take we’ve got, then let’s use the second tuning method. It keeps the expression and dynamics intact.
But here’s the thing. Much of the time people aren’t tuning vocals because they’re pitchy after numerous takes. They’re tuning them because they like that digitized sound. What used to be utilitarian has become an effect – like reverb or delay. Over-tuned vocals are now what radio stations and consumers think sounds “good.”
So many parallels to the rest of life here: Experience something often enough and it becomes the new normal, the new “good.”
So what if you don’t need to be tuned? What if you don’t like what the majority likes? The majority buys music you know? And my job is kinda to sell music. Hmmm.
I’ll take my chances for now.
Maybe I’ll go half-naked and over-tuned for the next record.
We’re in the studio today adding timpani and other ear candy to the record. Waiting on string parts to arrive later this afternoon I hope. Then I think we’re done and the whole thing gets passed on to Shane Wilson for mixing. We’re almost done! Thank you for praying and encouraging us through this process. (Sneak peeks coming soon to all backers.)
dubdynomite says:
I’ve always hated auto-tuned vocals, when you could tell they were tuned.
I generally assume that almost any vocal on a record is at least tweaked, but if I can’t really tell, I don’t care.
I think that it is problematic to a point because the people buying the music generally expect perfect vocals. I’m a pretty decent singer, but even after doing 4 to 6 takes and making a composite of the best of all of them, I found that it was nearly impossible for me to get every note pitch-perfect.
A great engineer can work the tuning magic, though, and MOST people will never know the difference. And if it were me, I would go for the magic.
Shaun Groves says:
We’ve done three or four takes of each song. Then we’ve picked the best take and replaced pitchy words and syllables (and even single vowel sounds) with bits for other takes. Rarely I’ve been pitchy on a word in every take so we’ve had to tweak. I hate tweaking. Hate. It. Feels like failure.
dubdynomite says:
Sure, it feels like failure now, but when you finally get the finished product back and listen to it, it will be hard to remember where you comped or where you tweaked.
It will sound great, and when it does, that will feel like success.
Shaun Groves says:
True. Very true.
JessicaB says:
Wow. That last bit packed a visual punch.
Mental images, people. Mental. Images.
MainlineMom aka Sarah says:
This is so enlightening, thanks Shaun. Now I’m gonna have to go listen to a bunch of music and figure out if I can distinguish between the two processes.
Lindsay says:
I’d prefer it natural, as well. C’est la vie…
Michael Patterson says:
dubdynomite expressed my feelings very well. As for: “Maybe Iโll go half-naked and over-tuned for the next record” I’m not sure that will sell any music in you case. No offense. You’re a darn fine looking man. Just sayin’.
Shaun Groves says:
You haven’t seen me in spanx and a bikini top.
Platinum.
kiriseth says:
Bwa ha ha! I just the evil eye from my boss as I absolutely guffawed at this reply. ๐
Kelli says:
I need to go wash my brain free of that visual image…
Love this. I hate it when I hear someone sing live and they’re under the pitch the. entire. time. There are several groups I won’t listen to for that very reason. I am completely understanding of the fact that sometimes a singer won’t hit every note, but when a record is overpriced and every itch is bent up, there’s something so fake abut that.
I like that idea of all natural. Vocally, that is… ๐
Kelli says:
Darn this autocorrect!!!
I meant when a record is overproduced and the PITCH is bent. Ugh… I really need to proofread before hitting send.
JessicaB says:
Yeah you do, Kelli!
Shaun, did you see her typo-curse on my blog today? It was EPIC. ๐
Kelli says:
Yes. My iPad and I are not on good terms right now. ๐
Lindsay says:
I actually will often search out live videos of songs I like (and have already purchased) and pull the track off the video, much preferring the live, imperfect, UNtuned version over the overwrought studio version!
Honestly, I don’t even listen to radio anymore…. I MUCH prefer demos, bathroom sessions and live material. Music isn’t MEANT to be perfect… that’s what makes it so magical… if it’s not organic I just won’t bother listening to it.
Angie says:
So many life lessons there!
Thanks for sharing this journey, it’s been fun to see the ‘behind the music’!
And please, no spandex ๐
kiriseth says:
As a singer in my church choir (as well as having had quite a few solo parts over the years), I strive to hit all the notes, but recognize that I am only human, so sometimes the notes will not come out as I had intended. There is a (big) part of me that hates when that happens. But I despise the music industry’s insistence on computerizing music to death. There’s also this part of me in the back of my head that thinks maybe it’s a bit sacrilegious to tweak anything to perfection, because there is only ONE perfect being. Who are we as humans to try to outdo the only perfection there is? This is a big, complicated, confusing battle that rages in my head often.
Shaun Groves says:
And the thing is that when you take a vocal and solo it in really really good studio speakers, well, all kinds of imperfections suddenly appear. Excruciating for me.
It’s like thinking you look pretty good and then putting your face under a magnifying glass. Where’d THAT come from???
Meredith Dunn says:
I was really hoping that you would stick with the metaphorical applications you referred to as opposed to drawing that literal illustration of being scantily clad. I was eating lunch, Shaun. Now… appetite gone.
Jenn says:
I am in agreement with everyone else. I think that over-tuning does a disservice to the singers, because then when they sing live (i.e. Taylor Swift at the Grammy’s) people think they sound awful. But in reality they sound fine and they are good singers, but they are not “perfect” like on the CD. And since you will no doubt be performing the new album live lots of times, you probably want to go natural. With your voice.
Shaun Groves says:
A LOT of country artists are using tuning live now too…because of just that. That way they’re always tuned, always perfect…always telling a lie?
FzxGkJssFrk says:
I was totally disappointed a few years back when I heard that was happening in Nashville. I’m kind of shocked that the digital audio processing can happen that fast without making it sound really artificial.
Jenn says:
Yes, a lie! Just like when I use the airbrush tool on my photo editing software to make my skin look flawless. I use the teeth whitener tool, too. I am actually a 75-year old grandmother.
Kevin Davis says:
Great post Shaun. My favorite male vocals of all-time are your vocals on the “Twilight” album, especially “Jesus.” “Tuning” vocals have completely “over-produced” almost every album I’ve heard in the past couple of years. Great post about the industry as always and I can’t wait for some new “tunes” from my favorite male singer!
GoCards44 says:
Hopefully, God in His perfect omniscience allows the rapture to occur in the moments just before Ben beats you for even thinking about donning spanx and a bikini (it’s called accountability brother)!
Seriously, isn’t it interesting how many things mankind has created or invented to hide our imperfections, when it’s just those imperfections that should point us to our need for God?
Amy says:
Of course, half naked might sell to the people who really need to hear the music. ๐
jomo says:
As a tech-geek type currently doing post-production on a recording; my rule of thumb is that tuning is okay as long as long as you don’t make the vocalist better than they could have been on their own if they had another take or two. That means never flatllining any waveforms. For my taste.
For me, imperfection in art is crucial for an emotional response anyway. Especially when it’s “Christian Art”, which is always about imperfection in one way or another.
Dee says:
Auto-tune is like plastic surgery: it may be perfect, but it still ain’t right.
FzxGkJssFrk says:
Yeah, I’d go with #2 as well. The over-autotuning of so much current music is really sonically irritating to me. Especially when it over-smooths the natural pitch vibrato of some voices – I think even when it’s not done for effect it sounds kind of robotic.
And I couldn’t agree more about the magnifying-glass effect. When I recorded mine I didn’t do any auto-tuning; just recorded three takes and took the best parts of each, then dubbed any remaining problem sections. And quality of vocals is one of the bigger deficiencies in the EP.
So, first Beyonce, now Britney? Is this a regular post feature we can look forward to now?
Beth says:
I prefer live versions of a lot of the music I enjoy for the same reasons. I couldn’t help but cringe the other day when listening to the radio and there was a guest artist performing live. He sounded “awful” compared to his radio cuts. He wasn’t bad, he just wasn’t “perfect.” It was a shock to my ears because I’d never heard him sing live before.
The very first time I heard you sing, it was live, in London (2003, a lifetime ago it seems). That was the first taste of what was to quickly become my favorite music for many reasons. Not to mention making a great friend in the process!
Keep it real.
Bernard Shuford says:
Don’t tune.
Adam says:
I love the beauty and the creativity of the human mind. Often we use what our mind can create and try to express that from our human abilities. If we begin to steal away the minor imperfections… as you said…it becomes less human. what does this do to the human process and creativity? Will we strive to be better or just rely on something else and be ok with it being “good enough?”
The point is, we don’t learn…we don’t grow…we become less “ok” with being human…we lose ourselves (not completely…but more than we should).
I feel like I am rambling…sorry.
Sarah says:
HAHAHA, this made me laugh (at least the part about you going half naked on the next one… please don’t!)
Seriously though, I LOVE that with you, what you see if what you get. Or to put it more appropriately, what you hear is what you get. When I hear you sing live, it sounds exactly like your record. Now that, good sir, is what it’s supposed to be like. Please don’t change.