Comments on: The Reluctance Of Rock Stars http://shaungroves.com/2010/02/the-reluctance-of-rock-stars/ Thu, 09 Feb 2012 23:25:30 -0600 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Amy http://shaungroves.com/2010/02/the-reluctance-of-rock-stars/#comment-19454 Amy Fri, 05 Mar 2010 17:59:18 +0000 http://shaungroves.com/?p=5685#comment-19454 A long time ago I was taught this brilliant little bit of wisdom: "when someone says NO, it means that you haven't given them enough information." A long time ago I was taught this brilliant little bit of wisdom: “when someone says NO, it means that you haven’t given them enough information.”

]]> By: Princess Leia http://shaungroves.com/2010/02/the-reluctance-of-rock-stars/#comment-19146 Princess Leia Wed, 03 Feb 2010 18:53:27 +0000 http://shaungroves.com/?p=5685#comment-19146 This reminds me of something which I remind myself of frequently - Peter's admonition for wives not to nag their husbands. Yep, by bugging hubs he might end up doing the thing that I want him to do, but by giving it to God instead maybe someday hubs will do it willingly of his own volition (and in God's timing rather than my own) instead of just because I nagged. But it's so much easier to nag. And then complain when my vinegar didn't catch more flies than honey. This reminds me of something which I remind myself of frequently – Peter’s admonition for wives not to nag their husbands. Yep, by bugging hubs he might end up doing the thing that I want him to do, but by giving it to God instead maybe someday hubs will do it willingly of his own volition (and in God’s timing rather than my own) instead of just because I nagged.

But it’s so much easier to nag. And then complain when my vinegar didn’t catch more flies than honey.

]]> By: Marla Taviano http://shaungroves.com/2010/02/the-reluctance-of-rock-stars/#comment-19137 Marla Taviano Wed, 03 Feb 2010 14:08:45 +0000 http://shaungroves.com/?p=5685#comment-19137 I'm always wishing people would "get to where I'm at" more quickly. If I'd open my eyes, I'll bet I'd see a ton of other areas where I need to "get to where someone else is at." I appreciated this post. I’m always wishing people would “get to where I’m at” more quickly. If I’d open my eyes, I’ll bet I’d see a ton of other areas where I need to “get to where someone else is at.”

I appreciated this post.

]]> By: dean http://shaungroves.com/2010/02/the-reluctance-of-rock-stars/#comment-19136 dean Wed, 03 Feb 2010 07:46:08 +0000 http://shaungroves.com/?p=5685#comment-19136 you nailed me, bro, and i needed it. when i first started out in ministry on church staffs, i bought into a lot of stuff that went on in churches, particularly in the way of inward-focused activities and spending money on entertaining ourselves. only in the last 18-24 months have i come under conviction about how upside down this way of "doing church" is, and i've had a radical, wholesale change of heart and mind about it. unfortunately, i've approached these issues with my local church in such a way that just because i changed my outlook in just the last year and a half, that they should IMMEDIATELY come around to my way of thinking and get their collective act together. thanks for the kick in the pants. i have some apologies of my own to make.............. you nailed me, bro, and i needed it. when i first started out in ministry on church staffs, i bought into a lot of stuff that went on in churches, particularly in the way of inward-focused activities and spending money on entertaining ourselves. only in the last 18-24 months have i come under conviction about how upside down this way of “doing church” is, and i’ve had a radical, wholesale change of heart and mind about it. unfortunately, i’ve approached these issues with my local church in such a way that just because i changed my outlook in just the last year and a half, that they should IMMEDIATELY come around to my way of thinking and get their collective act together.

thanks for the kick in the pants. i have some apologies of my own to make…………..

]]> By: Megan http://shaungroves.com/2010/02/the-reluctance-of-rock-stars/#comment-19133 Megan Wed, 03 Feb 2010 05:01:38 +0000 http://shaungroves.com/?p=5685#comment-19133 My friend used to date Bebo Norman. I'm sure that's some kind of 7 degrees from somebody game just waiting to happen... My friend used to date Bebo Norman. I’m sure that’s some kind of 7 degrees from somebody game just waiting to happen…

]]> By: Shaun Groves http://shaungroves.com/2010/02/the-reluctance-of-rock-stars/#comment-19128 Shaun Groves Wed, 03 Feb 2010 01:56:42 +0000 http://shaungroves.com/?p=5685#comment-19128 I stand corrected. I stand corrected.

]]> By: cct http://shaungroves.com/2010/02/the-reluctance-of-rock-stars/#comment-19124 cct Tue, 02 Feb 2010 22:41:12 +0000 http://shaungroves.com/?p=5685#comment-19124 Key words I read here: "If I care about something strongly....". So I think you hit the nail on the head, they just aren't there yet. Praying some day they will be. Key words I read here: “If I care about something strongly….”. So I think you hit the nail on the head, they just aren’t there yet. Praying some day they will be.

]]> By: Debby http://shaungroves.com/2010/02/the-reluctance-of-rock-stars/#comment-19121 Debby Tue, 02 Feb 2010 19:19:07 +0000 http://shaungroves.com/?p=5685#comment-19121 Not making assumptions, just sharing how it came across. Thus, "it sounds like" as opposed to "you are". And do I see your comments as "sin"? Nope. No I don't. Not then, not now. And the comment section is no less a good place to process and have a conversation and plant seeds than the blog itself. Thanks for the opportunity to do that! Not making assumptions, just sharing how it came across. Thus, “it sounds like” as opposed to “you are”.

And do I see your comments as “sin”? Nope. No I don’t. Not then, not now.

And the comment section is no less a good place to process and have a conversation and plant seeds than the blog itself.

Thanks for the opportunity to do that!

]]> By: Shaun Groves http://shaungroves.com/2010/02/the-reluctance-of-rock-stars/#comment-19120 Shaun Groves Tue, 02 Feb 2010 18:49:58 +0000 http://shaungroves.com/?p=5685#comment-19120 You're right Debby in that I don't expect any of the "rock stars" to read these words. And they have no clue I got frustrated with them yesterday. They're being invited by members of the team, not me. So, yes, this is not truly an apology to them but, then again, none is needed since they're unaware of my previous angst. But my gosh, Debby, a blog is a good place to process and even confess. It forces me to hold fast to my newfound more positive and charitable attitude and it hopefully leads readers to make similar changes in their own life. I think this post has already caused some of us to connects dots in our own lives, to acknowledge that perhaps we've been uncharitable or expected more of others than we expect of ourselves. So it's worth processing publicly because we all benefit and so, hopefully, my "sin" is a seed for good in the lives of many more. My inbox says that's true. Ironically, you're making assumptions about my motivations and mindset after reading a post in which I confess that my doing the very same thing was wrong. ; ) You’re right Debby in that I don’t expect any of the “rock stars” to read these words. And they have no clue I got frustrated with them yesterday. They’re being invited by members of the team, not me. So, yes, this is not truly an apology to them but, then again, none is needed since they’re unaware of my previous angst.

But my gosh, Debby, a blog is a good place to process and even confess. It forces me to hold fast to my newfound more positive and charitable attitude and it hopefully leads readers to make similar changes in their own life. I think this post has already caused some of us to connects dots in our own lives, to acknowledge that perhaps we’ve been uncharitable or expected more of others than we expect of ourselves.

So it’s worth processing publicly because we all benefit and so, hopefully, my “sin” is a seed for good in the lives of many more. My inbox says that’s true.

Ironically, you’re making assumptions about my motivations and mindset after reading a post in which I confess that my doing the very same thing was wrong. ; )

]]> By: Debby http://shaungroves.com/2010/02/the-reluctance-of-rock-stars/#comment-19119 Debby Tue, 02 Feb 2010 18:34:06 +0000 http://shaungroves.com/?p=5685#comment-19119 What seems odd about this post is the public apology to private individuals who are probably not even aware of your "ugly". Unless you forwarded your letter on to them also, or communicated those same thoughts to them personally. But then I think you would have simply gone to them and apologized privately. Your sin isn't against me or your blog readers...is it? I'm sorry if I'm missing something here but it seems as though your use of this public forum isn't about an apology as much as it about casting a little snarky pebble. Your message comes across as, it's so frustrating to wait for you guys to come around to my right way of thinking, but I will show patience to you in your immaturity. You sound weary and frustrated to me. As you've indicated previously, this is God's concert, God's plan...He will bring who is needed in whatever way he chooses. Ask, let the Holy Spirit lead, wait on Him. Praying for your team. What seems odd about this post is the public apology to private individuals who are probably not even aware of your “ugly”. Unless you forwarded your letter on to them also, or communicated those same thoughts to them personally. But then I think you would have simply gone to them and apologized privately. Your sin isn’t against me or your blog readers…is it?

I’m sorry if I’m missing something here but it seems as though your use of this public forum isn’t about an apology as much as it about casting a little snarky pebble. Your message comes across as, it’s so frustrating to wait for you guys to come around to my right way of thinking, but I will show patience to you in your immaturity.

You sound weary and frustrated to me. As you’ve indicated previously, this is God’s concert, God’s plan…He will bring who is needed in whatever way he chooses. Ask, let the Holy Spirit lead, wait on Him.

Praying for your team.

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