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		<title>By: MamasBoy</title>
		<link>http://shaungroves.com/2008/09/chew-on-this-while-i-head-home/#comment-4305</link>
		<dc:creator>MamasBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 00:51:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#8217;ve referred to myself and others I know and respect as being cynical, but I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ve ever thought of people I respect as cynics.&#160;
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A cynic, to me, is someone who habitually sees the worst in others and ignores the good.&#160; Negative cynicism distorts the truth and calls it accurate observation.&#160; People are a mixture of good and bad.&#160; Organized religion, politicians, businessmen, believers in evolution/creation, the government, Muslims, Jews, Baptists, Catholics, &#8220;Emergents&#8221; all these people/things have good and bad points.&#160; A cynic, in my mind, is someone refuses to see the good in others and can only criticize.&#160; Sometimes cynicism is accurate, but when somebody can only be cynical about a certain topic, then it is often the case that the cynicism expressed tends to be extreme and distorted views of reality, instead of accurate observation.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve referred to myself and others I know and respect as being cynical, but I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ve ever thought of people I respect as cynics.&nbsp;
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A cynic, to me, is someone who habitually sees the worst in others and ignores the good.&nbsp; Negative cynicism distorts the truth and calls it accurate observation.&nbsp; People are a mixture of good and bad.&nbsp; Organized religion, politicians, businessmen, believers in evolution/creation, the government, Muslims, Jews, Baptists, Catholics, &#8220;Emergents&#8221; all these people/things have good and bad points.&nbsp; A cynic, in my mind, is someone refuses to see the good in others and can only criticize.&nbsp; Sometimes cynicism is accurate, but when somebody can only be cynical about a certain topic, then it is often the case that the cynicism expressed tends to be extreme and distorted views of reality, instead of accurate observation.
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		<title>By: Geneva</title>
		<link>http://shaungroves.com/2008/09/chew-on-this-while-i-head-home/#comment-4304</link>
		<dc:creator>Geneva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 23:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Shaun,
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Nope, I really don&#8217;t have a cynical view of you.&#160; Just disagree w/ your take on stuff sometimes.&#160; But I still come to read because you are sometimes insightful.&#160; And sometimes funny.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shaun,
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Nope, I really don&#8217;t have a cynical view of you.&nbsp; Just disagree w/ your take on stuff sometimes.&nbsp; But I still come to read because you are sometimes insightful.&nbsp; And sometimes funny.</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
		<link>http://shaungroves.com/2008/09/chew-on-this-while-i-head-home/#comment-4303</link>
		<dc:creator>Rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 19:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;p.s. You were in Tulsa? I didn&#8217;t know, else I would have bought you a cup-a-joe or something.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>p.s. You were in Tulsa? I didn&#8217;t know, else I would have bought you a cup-a-joe or something.</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
		<link>http://shaungroves.com/2008/09/chew-on-this-while-i-head-home/#comment-4302</link>
		<dc:creator>Rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 18:59:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I echo Tim on this one. It really comes down to where you heart is. That yields your motive, your tone, your delivery...regardless of how truthful the statement is.
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There is a fine line to walk when delivering (and interpreting) something cynical and something that is an accurate observation. And many times, cynically delivered or not, the truth hurts.
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And in the end, all the folks that peg you (or anyone) as a cynic probably don&#8217;t know you...so you&#8217;re right, that points the finger back at them by distrusting someone else&#8217;s motives and such.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I echo Tim on this one. It really comes down to where you heart is. That yields your motive, your tone, your delivery&#8230;regardless of how truthful the statement is.
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There is a fine line to walk when delivering (and interpreting) something cynical and something that is an accurate observation. And many times, cynically delivered or not, the truth hurts.
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And in the end, all the folks that peg you (or anyone) as a cynic probably don&#8217;t know you&#8230;so you&#8217;re right, that points the finger back at them by distrusting someone else&#8217;s motives and such.</p>
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		<title>By: pat</title>
		<link>http://shaungroves.com/2008/09/chew-on-this-while-i-head-home/#comment-4301</link>
		<dc:creator>pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 16:57:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think the statement is true.&#160; Attempting to label someone a cynic could be a tactic to discredit an accurate observation (the truth).
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I believe the difference between an accurate but unpleasant observation and cynicism is prejudice.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the statement is true.&nbsp; Attempting to label someone a cynic could be a tactic to discredit an accurate observation (the truth).
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I believe the difference between an accurate but unpleasant observation and cynicism is prejudice.</p>
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		<title>By: Shaun Groves</title>
		<link>http://shaungroves.com/2008/09/chew-on-this-while-i-head-home/#comment-4300</link>
		<dc:creator>Shaun Groves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 11:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Cynical: believing the worst of human nature and motives; having a disbelief in the selflessness of others.
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According to one of those dictionary things.
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According to one of those dictionary things.</p>
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		<title>By: Shaun Groves</title>
		<link>http://shaungroves.com/2008/09/chew-on-this-while-i-head-home/#comment-4299</link>
		<dc:creator>Shaun Groves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 22:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;This post certainly sounds like you are convinced that your observation on Fireproof (a movie you have not seen) is “an accurate observation” and those who disagree are just too dense to get it.&lt;/i&gt;
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Uhhhh, no.&#160; But if that&#8217;s not a cynical view of me, I don&#8217;t know a thing about cynicism.
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I wrote this post because the word &#8220;cynic&#8221; gets thrown around a lot.&#160; By me as well. Yes, I was called a cynic in the comments of the Fireproof post but that simply got me thinking...not accusing. You see, I don&#8217;t recall calling anyone I agreed with a cynic.&#160; That&#8217;s convenient. That got me thinking.&#160; And that&#8217;s all that&#8217;s behind this post, Geneva.&#160; Wish you&#8217;d have given me the same benefit of the doubt that you&#8217;d like me to give Fireproof.&#160; But I understand, the way some are interpreting that post, probably because of the way it was written, why you didn&#8217;t.&#160; No harm.
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&lt;i&gt;I also believe that you are wrong in your assumption that this film was made solely to reach sinners and tell them about Jesus-y stuff.&lt;/i&gt;
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That&#8217;s not an assumption, actually.&#160; Read the media coverage of this film and statements from the folks making it.&#160; This church is using film as means of evangelism.&#160; I&#8217;ve not attacked them for that or for the message of this film either.&#160; I&#8217;m not assuming a thing about this church&#8217;s motivations.&#160; They&#8217;ve bravely stated them outright.&#160; And the film does talk about Jesus-y stuff, like, um, Jesus.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>This post certainly sounds like you are convinced that your observation on Fireproof (a movie you have not seen) is “an accurate observation” and those who disagree are just too dense to get it.</i>
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Uhhhh, no.&nbsp; But if that&#8217;s not a cynical view of me, I don&#8217;t know a thing about cynicism.
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I wrote this post because the word &#8220;cynic&#8221; gets thrown around a lot.&nbsp; By me as well. Yes, I was called a cynic in the comments of the Fireproof post but that simply got me thinking&#8230;not accusing. You see, I don&#8217;t recall calling anyone I agreed with a cynic.&nbsp; That&#8217;s convenient. That got me thinking.&nbsp; And that&#8217;s all that&#8217;s behind this post, Geneva.&nbsp; Wish you&#8217;d have given me the same benefit of the doubt that you&#8217;d like me to give Fireproof.&nbsp; But I understand, the way some are interpreting that post, probably because of the way it was written, why you didn&#8217;t.&nbsp; No harm.
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<i>I also believe that you are wrong in your assumption that this film was made solely to reach sinners and tell them about Jesus-y stuff.</i>
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That&#8217;s not an assumption, actually.&nbsp; Read the media coverage of this film and statements from the folks making it.&nbsp; This church is using film as means of evangelism.&nbsp; I&#8217;ve not attacked them for that or for the message of this film either.&nbsp; I&#8217;m not assuming a thing about this church&#8217;s motivations.&nbsp; They&#8217;ve bravely stated them outright.&nbsp; And the film does talk about Jesus-y stuff, like, um, Jesus.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
		<link>http://shaungroves.com/2008/09/chew-on-this-while-i-head-home/#comment-4298</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 20:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think cynicism is an &#8220;accurate observation&#8221;...of THIS world.
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THIS world is &#8220;wearing out like a garment&#8221;, it&#8217;s falling apart, we&#8217;re all gonna die, etc.
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But The Kingdom, that&#8217;s a different issue.
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The Kingdom brings hope beyond THIS world.
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So, yeah when looking at this world cynicism is an &#8220;accurate observation&#8221;.
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But, for the citizen of the Kingdom of Heaven, cynicism is tunnel-vision, short-sightedness, just a small part of the bigger, better story.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think cynicism is an &#8220;accurate observation&#8221;&#8230;of THIS world.
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THIS world is &#8220;wearing out like a garment&#8221;, it&#8217;s falling apart, we&#8217;re all gonna die, etc.
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But The Kingdom, that&#8217;s a different issue.
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The Kingdom brings hope beyond THIS world.
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So, yeah when looking at this world cynicism is an &#8220;accurate observation&#8221;.
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But, for the citizen of the Kingdom of Heaven, cynicism is tunnel-vision, short-sightedness, just a small part of the bigger, better story.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Pardo</title>
		<link>http://shaungroves.com/2008/09/chew-on-this-while-i-head-home/#comment-4297</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Pardo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 19:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;of course, what consitutes an &#8220;accurate observation&#8221; is a valid question as well.
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if it&#8217;s just based on an opinion or preference in taste.....then it&#8217;s moot to begin with.
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which, of course, is why &#8220;accurate observations&#8221; about &#8220;art&#8221; are impossible.
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continue on.&#160;  &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.shaungroves.com/images/smileys/smile.gif&quot; width=&quot;19&quot; height=&quot;19&quot; alt=&quot;smile&quot; style=&quot;border:0;&quot; /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>of course, what consitutes an &#8220;accurate observation&#8221; is a valid question as well.
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if it&#8217;s just based on an opinion or preference in taste&#8230;..then it&#8217;s moot to begin with.
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which, of course, is why &#8220;accurate observations&#8221; about &#8220;art&#8221; are impossible.
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continue on.&nbsp;  <img src="http://www.shaungroves.com/images/smileys/smile.gif" width="19" height="19" alt="smile" style="border:0;" /></p>
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		<title>By: Christine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 19:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;To the GBS quote, I would say true. But I think the premise should be &#8220;What is the difference between an accurate observation and cynicism?&#8221; Shaw says nothing about the accurate observation being unpleasant.
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An accurate observation should be just that -  accurate, irrespective of the emotional reaction that observation will elicit.&#160; Accurate observations aren&#8217;t necessarily unpleasant.&#160; At least not from every point of view.&#160; But cynicism implies that accuracy, or objectivity, if you will, has been chucked aside in favor of an already-arrived-at opinion.&#160; Cynicism is a way of approaching observations irrespective of the accurate facts surrounding whatever it is that&#8217;s being observed.&#160; Someone incapable of or unwilling to set aside their own preconceptions about something would naturally assume the same about someone making an observation they didn&#8217;t like or agree with.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To the GBS quote, I would say true. But I think the premise should be &#8220;What is the difference between an accurate observation and cynicism?&#8221; Shaw says nothing about the accurate observation being unpleasant.
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An accurate observation should be just that &#8211;  accurate, irrespective of the emotional reaction that observation will elicit.&nbsp; Accurate observations aren&#8217;t necessarily unpleasant.&nbsp; At least not from every point of view.&nbsp; But cynicism implies that accuracy, or objectivity, if you will, has been chucked aside in favor of an already-arrived-at opinion.&nbsp; Cynicism is a way of approaching observations irrespective of the accurate facts surrounding whatever it is that&#8217;s being observed.&nbsp; Someone incapable of or unwilling to set aside their own preconceptions about something would naturally assume the same about someone making an observation they didn&#8217;t like or agree with.</p>
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