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		<title>By: Scooter Girl</title>
		<link>http://shaungroves.com/2008/02/anger-is-dumb/#comment-8606</link>
		<dc:creator>Scooter Girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;That is so true. Arrrrrrgh! Arrrrgh! &lt;img src=&quot;http://www.shaungroves.com/images/smileys/wink.gif&quot; width=&quot;19&quot; height=&quot;19&quot; alt=&quot;wink&quot; style=&quot;border:0;&quot; /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is so true. Arrrrrrgh! Arrrrgh! <img src="http://www.shaungroves.com/images/smileys/wink.gif" width="19" height="19" alt="wink" style="border:0;" /></p>
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		<title>By: masini bucuresti</title>
		<link>http://shaungroves.com/2008/02/anger-is-dumb/#comment-8605</link>
		<dc:creator>masini bucuresti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 17:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I was ok till ten minutes ago when my daughters boyfriend induced me to feel extremely angry. I am having a very difficult time putting this aside and came on ab in hopes of losing the feeling.
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I should change my name to: &#8220;sweetcakes is not so sweet after all&#8221;
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since i feel like smashing everyone that shits me off today.
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Anger is such a negative soul destroying emotion.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was ok till ten minutes ago when my daughters boyfriend induced me to feel extremely angry. I am having a very difficult time putting this aside and came on ab in hopes of losing the feeling.<br />
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I should change my name to: &#8220;sweetcakes is not so sweet after all&#8221;<br />
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since i feel like smashing everyone that shits me off today.<br />
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Anger is such a negative soul destroying emotion.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://shaungroves.com/2008/02/anger-is-dumb/#comment-8604</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 18:35:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I don&#8217;t get it.
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		<title>By: Stefanos</title>
		<link>http://shaungroves.com/2008/02/anger-is-dumb/#comment-8603</link>
		<dc:creator>Stefanos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 09:31:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Very good blog! I like it! Thanks!
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		<title>By: hmmmmm</title>
		<link>http://shaungroves.com/2008/02/anger-is-dumb/#comment-8602</link>
		<dc:creator>hmmmmm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 00:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Shaun,
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I appreciate your latest comments.&#160; I think we are saying the same thing to varying degrees.&#160; While anger is &#8220;not allowed&#8221; for us humans (as you put it), it is still an emotion that humans experience (and some of us more than others...as all my fingers point at me).&#160; While Paul certainly says &#8220;get rid of anger&#8221; (among other things) he also says &#8220;in your anger do not sin.&#8221;  An interesting caveat.&#160; Because I am not God, I certainly cannot practice anger responsibly in any form...but interestingly, my anger informs me that something is wrong in my life.&#160; Call it a sinner&#8217;s red flag or a prodigal&#8217;s bullhorn, but my anger lets me know that there is something happening in my soul that needs attention.&#160; For me, this soul-searching often leads to identifying an injustice.&#160; Whether the injustice is related to myself or someone else, my anger points me to my huge need for Christ. Identifying injustices and feeling the pain and hurt that are usually present underneath the anger has driven me time and again to the foot of the cross.
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I may be a simple mind, but I guess that is what I would call a constructive use of anger&#8230;
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So, God is still allowed anger and I&#8217;m still the sinner who can&#8217;t help being angry but is trying to understand it, get underneath it, and fight the injustices that it tends to throw in my face.&#160; But that&#8217;s just me&#8230;
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Thanks man.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shaun,<br />
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I appreciate your latest comments.&nbsp; I think we are saying the same thing to varying degrees.&nbsp; While anger is &#8220;not allowed&#8221; for us humans (as you put it), it is still an emotion that humans experience (and some of us more than others&#8230;as all my fingers point at me).&nbsp; While Paul certainly says &#8220;get rid of anger&#8221; (among other things) he also says &#8220;in your anger do not sin.&#8221;  An interesting caveat.&nbsp; Because I am not God, I certainly cannot practice anger responsibly in any form&#8230;but interestingly, my anger informs me that something is wrong in my life.&nbsp; Call it a sinner&#8217;s red flag or a prodigal&#8217;s bullhorn, but my anger lets me know that there is something happening in my soul that needs attention.&nbsp; For me, this soul-searching often leads to identifying an injustice.&nbsp; Whether the injustice is related to myself or someone else, my anger points me to my huge need for Christ. Identifying injustices and feeling the pain and hurt that are usually present underneath the anger has driven me time and again to the foot of the cross.
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I may be a simple mind, but I guess that is what I would call a constructive use of anger&#8230;
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So, God is still allowed anger and I&#8217;m still the sinner who can&#8217;t help being angry but is trying to understand it, get underneath it, and fight the injustices that it tends to throw in my face.&nbsp; But that&#8217;s just me&#8230;
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Thanks man.</p>
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		<title>By: Shaun Groves</title>
		<link>http://shaungroves.com/2008/02/anger-is-dumb/#comment-8601</link>
		<dc:creator>Shaun Groves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 02:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;God is allowed vengeance, but not me.&#160; God is allowed jealousy, but not me.&#160; God is allowed wrath, but not me.
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Also, I am in the image of God yet I have been a porn addict, greedy shoplifter, inattentive father, selfish friend, poor listener, egomaniacal rock star, and much more that is outside the image of God.
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I cannot be all that God is.&#160; And all that I am is not what God is.
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On anger, Paul says get rid of ALL anger and bitterness.&#160; That word &#8220;anger&#8221; in the Greek means - you guessed it - anger.
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in Psalm 137 (the psalm Jesus quotes in his third beatitude on meekness) we&#8217;re told not to be angry or fret - the word is where we get our word &#8220;char&#8221; as in burned.&#160; Don&#8217;t get burned up about stuff.&#160; Why?&#160; The psalmist says if we&#8217;re committed, trusting, God there&#8217;s no need.&#160; God is in control of the world, not us.&#160; So, don&#8217;t worry, fret, or be angry.
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I love science, especially psychology - I do - but it doesn&#8217;t trump the bible for me.&#160; Nor does pragmatism.&#160; The bible&#8217;s clear: don&#8217;t be angry.&#160; Old and New Testament.&#160; We&#8217;re not God.&#160; And because HE is we&#8217;ve got no good reason to be pissed off...no matter how much good we may be able to wring out of it.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God is allowed vengeance, but not me.&nbsp; God is allowed jealousy, but not me.&nbsp; God is allowed wrath, but not me.
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Also, I am in the image of God yet I have been a porn addict, greedy shoplifter, inattentive father, selfish friend, poor listener, egomaniacal rock star, and much more that is outside the image of God.
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I cannot be all that God is.&nbsp; And all that I am is not what God is.
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On anger, Paul says get rid of ALL anger and bitterness.&nbsp; That word &#8220;anger&#8221; in the Greek means &#8211; you guessed it &#8211; anger.
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in Psalm 137 (the psalm Jesus quotes in his third beatitude on meekness) we&#8217;re told not to be angry or fret &#8211; the word is where we get our word &#8220;char&#8221; as in burned.&nbsp; Don&#8217;t get burned up about stuff.&nbsp; Why?&nbsp; The psalmist says if we&#8217;re committed, trusting, God there&#8217;s no need.&nbsp; God is in control of the world, not us.&nbsp; So, don&#8217;t worry, fret, or be angry.
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I love science, especially psychology &#8211; I do &#8211; but it doesn&#8217;t trump the bible for me.&nbsp; Nor does pragmatism.&nbsp; The bible&#8217;s clear: don&#8217;t be angry.&nbsp; Old and New Testament.&nbsp; We&#8217;re not God.&nbsp; And because HE is we&#8217;ve got no good reason to be pissed off&#8230;no matter how much good we may be able to wring out of it.</p>
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		<title>By: hmmmm</title>
		<link>http://shaungroves.com/2008/02/anger-is-dumb/#comment-8600</link>
		<dc:creator>hmmmm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 01:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Interesting response...Am I God?&#160; Certainly not.&#160; But do we not all bear God&#8217;s image?&#160; My point is simply, what if anger (as one of many emotions that God has given us and one that He Himself was not shy about) is not actually dumb in and of itself. Like so many other things in our world, sin has tainted and destroyed.&#160; I am certainly not advocating the destructive and irresponsible uses of anger, but why can&#8217;t anger be used constructively?
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There is some very interesting psychological research going on in regards to &#8220;constructive anger&#8221; and its active expression via relationship.&#160; For those interested, check it out:
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Constructive anger verbal behavior predicts blood pressure in a population-based sample. By: Davidson, Karina, MacGregor, Michael Wm., Stuhr, Judith, Dixon, Kim, MacLean, David, Health Psychology, 02786133, 20000101, Vol. 19, Issue 1
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I especially recommend checking out the 12 ways of dealing with anger constrcutively (Table 1).&#160; For those skeptics out there, I ask you a simple question:&#160; when you get angry, what do you do with it?
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Peace
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting response&#8230;Am I God?&nbsp; Certainly not.&nbsp; But do we not all bear God&#8217;s image?&nbsp; My point is simply, what if anger (as one of many emotions that God has given us and one that He Himself was not shy about) is not actually dumb in and of itself. Like so many other things in our world, sin has tainted and destroyed.&nbsp; I am certainly not advocating the destructive and irresponsible uses of anger, but why can&#8217;t anger be used constructively?
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There is some very interesting psychological research going on in regards to &#8220;constructive anger&#8221; and its active expression via relationship.&nbsp; For those interested, check it out:
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Constructive anger verbal behavior predicts blood pressure in a population-based sample. By: Davidson, Karina, MacGregor, Michael Wm., Stuhr, Judith, Dixon, Kim, MacLean, David, Health Psychology, 02786133, 20000101, Vol. 19, Issue 1
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I especially recommend checking out the 12 ways of dealing with anger constrcutively (Table 1).&nbsp; For those skeptics out there, I ask you a simple question:&nbsp; when you get angry, what do you do with it?
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Peace</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://shaungroves.com/2008/02/anger-is-dumb/#comment-8599</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 06:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#8217;ve been on the other side of the retail counter, so I know what it&#8217;s like to have customers throw temper tantrums over situations you didn&#8217;t cause. Since I worked in a video store, they were often quite trivial situations at that (like a certain newly released movie being unavailable because all of our copies got rented out that morning).
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So I find it helpful in situations like that to remember that usually, whatever went wrong isn&#8217;t the fault of the person whose job it is to deal with me. In other words, don&#8217;t shoot the messenger.
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That said, I&#8217;ve found that it often helps to be firm. Throwing a temper tantrum isn&#8217;t good, but letting yourself get pushed around by people who are too lazy to do their jobs and/or afraid to admit they or their superiors/subordinates/company/whatever made a mistake also isn&#8217;t good. The dude/chick behind the counter is often at the bottom of the food chain, and may not know exactly what to do with your special circumstance when a computer glitch erases your reservation, or weather cancels your flight, or whatever. I&#8217;ve seen people just go &#8220;Oh, well, I guess I&#8217;ll figure something else out&#8221; and be on their way, but in those situations, it might be better to calmly but firmly ask if anything can be done to remedy the situation rather than just letting the lackey at the counter throw up their hands and say, &#8220;Uh, sorry.&#8221; At the very least, you can always ask to speak with management, and allow the lackey to keep the line moving along, all without making a big scene out of it.
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And usually when I have to be firm with someone in a low-on-the-totem-pole position, I let &#8216;em know that I realize this isn&#8217;t their fault, but that I need to speak to someone with the authority to make a decision regarding how to handle my unique situation. Because that was the best way for me to handle things back at the video store when the customer insisted they&#8217;d returned their last rental at 9:59 PM and shouldn&#8217;t have to pay an extra day for it, and so forth.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been on the other side of the retail counter, so I know what it&#8217;s like to have customers throw temper tantrums over situations you didn&#8217;t cause. Since I worked in a video store, they were often quite trivial situations at that (like a certain newly released movie being unavailable because all of our copies got rented out that morning).
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So I find it helpful in situations like that to remember that usually, whatever went wrong isn&#8217;t the fault of the person whose job it is to deal with me. In other words, don&#8217;t shoot the messenger.
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That said, I&#8217;ve found that it often helps to be firm. Throwing a temper tantrum isn&#8217;t good, but letting yourself get pushed around by people who are too lazy to do their jobs and/or afraid to admit they or their superiors/subordinates/company/whatever made a mistake also isn&#8217;t good. The dude/chick behind the counter is often at the bottom of the food chain, and may not know exactly what to do with your special circumstance when a computer glitch erases your reservation, or weather cancels your flight, or whatever. I&#8217;ve seen people just go &#8220;Oh, well, I guess I&#8217;ll figure something else out&#8221; and be on their way, but in those situations, it might be better to calmly but firmly ask if anything can be done to remedy the situation rather than just letting the lackey at the counter throw up their hands and say, &#8220;Uh, sorry.&#8221; At the very least, you can always ask to speak with management, and allow the lackey to keep the line moving along, all without making a big scene out of it.
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And usually when I have to be firm with someone in a low-on-the-totem-pole position, I let &#8216;em know that I realize this isn&#8217;t their fault, but that I need to speak to someone with the authority to make a decision regarding how to handle my unique situation. Because that was the best way for me to handle things back at the video store when the customer insisted they&#8217;d returned their last rental at 9:59 PM and shouldn&#8217;t have to pay an extra day for it, and so forth.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy W</title>
		<link>http://shaungroves.com/2008/02/anger-is-dumb/#comment-8598</link>
		<dc:creator>Randy W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 04:22:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Haha, I&#8217;m realizing that myself lately.
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		<title>By: P.D. Ross</title>
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		<dc:creator>P.D. Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 02:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Brilliant Shaun, Brilliant!
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