I found it funny as well. And I get their point. But I dont believe that authentic is the exact opposite of religious. I think that the term religion can be one of those words that make people cringe because of the baggage that goes along with it. Maybe instead of authentic they should have used the word revolutionary. What do you think?
Rather ironic that they are trumpeting the value of authenticity while completely copying a different commercial. I have seen other versions of this same idea and they usually leave me with a bad taste in my mouth. I get the point, but it’s always full of gross over-simplifications and false dichotomies. But sometimes kind of funny
The “authentic” guy struck me as rather religious, though… at least according to Webster. He seemed to have “faithful devotion to an acknowledged ultimate reality or deity.” He was definitely more laid back and cool about his beliefs than the other religious guy, though. It probably didn’t hurt being younger, having more hair and better eyesight and being in better shape.
I, too, find these funny. But it gets hard when you start using the labels of “religious” and “authentic”. I do not see religion as being a bad thing, when it is a good and pure religion (James 1:27, for example). When it is a self-righteous religion, then that is bad. I personally cringe every time I hear the song lyrics “There’s a place where religion finally dies” cause, ya know, I hope not. Heaven will be a place of faithful devotion, just on a different level than we know here.
Authenticity is also a good thing. Don’t have to read far in the gospels to find Jesus railing against the hypocrisy of the Jews, so the message is to make your life match your words and your “beliefs”. Of course, you can be an authentic serial killer, too. So, to sum up, authentic and religious: not necessarily good things or bad things, and not the end all be all.
I don’t know that the makers of these funny shorts think that religious=bad and authentic=good. I actually highly doubt it. They just needed labels. Which raises debate. Which gets (some) people taking sides. Which gets (some) people hot under the collar. Sorry, Shaun, I somehow just saw this question leading back to your earlier post on splits. Doing something simple like these videos can really put (some) people off kilter.
how many different churches feel the need to make these videos? The first few were funny and fresh… I’m not saying what these videos are saying is wrong, it’s just old…
Authentic doesn’t fully describe what we are called to be. You can be an authentic jerk . . . many people on death row were “authentic.” Integrity calls us to be authentic to God’s work of transformation in us – not just authenticity based on our feelings and whims. It is the Holy Spirit’s work in us and our openness to it – His power and glory are what is seen – not us.
We have to expand the description beyond just “authentic”
Seth Ward, i think you hit it on the head when you said: “Maybe it’s time for Christians to quit being “sub” cultural and become cultural”. Yet God still used these videos to open a door to let the Holy Spirit work in my heart. I was convicted of my repetitive need to “change the world” when really I’m called to seek my own breastplate or righteousness and allow God to change me.
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Very funny. But. What about the words “authentic” and “religious” though? Is religion bad? Is authenticity it’s opposite? Whatcha think?
I found it funny as well. And I get their point. But I dont believe that authentic is the exact opposite of religious. I think that the term religion can be one of those words that make people cringe because of the baggage that goes along with it. Maybe instead of authentic they should have used the word revolutionary. What do you think?
Very funny. Enjoyed the second one immensely.
I think perhaps by authentic they didn’t mean for him to be the opposite of religious.
Perhaps they meant an authentic (true to one’s own personality, spirit, or character) Christian and one as the world sees us.
I don’t know. Maybe I am reaching.
Pretty flippin’ spot on though.
I know a few of the “religious” people.
Rather ironic that they are trumpeting the value of authenticity while completely copying a different commercial. I have seen other versions of this same idea and they usually leave me with a bad taste in my mouth. I get the point, but it’s always full of gross over-simplifications and false dichotomies. But sometimes kind of funny
Very funny with good points.
The “authentic” guy struck me as rather religious, though… at least according to Webster. He seemed to have “faithful devotion to an acknowledged ultimate reality or deity.” He was definitely more laid back and cool about his beliefs than the other religious guy, though. It probably didn’t hurt being younger, having more hair and better eyesight and being in better shape.
MB
No nerds allowed in the authentic Christian club, especially ones that bear a striking resemblance to Dwight Schrute.
Those are pretty cute.
I, too, find these funny. But it gets hard when you start using the labels of “religious” and “authentic”. I do not see religion as being a bad thing, when it is a good and pure religion (James 1:27, for example). When it is a self-righteous religion, then that is bad. I personally cringe every time I hear the song lyrics “There’s a place where religion finally dies” cause, ya know, I hope not. Heaven will be a place of faithful devotion, just on a different level than we know here.
Authenticity is also a good thing. Don’t have to read far in the gospels to find Jesus railing against the hypocrisy of the Jews, so the message is to make your life match your words and your “beliefs”. Of course, you can be an authentic serial killer, too. So, to sum up, authentic and religious: not necessarily good things or bad things, and not the end all be all.
I don’t know that the makers of these funny shorts think that religious=bad and authentic=good. I actually highly doubt it. They just needed labels. Which raises debate. Which gets (some) people taking sides. Which gets (some) people hot under the collar. Sorry, Shaun, I somehow just saw this question leading back to your earlier post on splits. Doing something simple like these videos can really put (some) people off kilter.
Not that I’m off kilter or anything. I’m just saying.
how many different churches feel the need to make these videos? The first few were funny and fresh… I’m not saying what these videos are saying is wrong, it’s just old…
Nate
Maybe it’s time for Christians to quit being “sub” cultural and become cultural.
But hey, it’s cute. No harm done. I chuckled.
entertaining. did you see this one? different, but interesting labels. the Christian vs. the Christ-follower.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXKXG6fzL0E
Authentic doesn’t fully describe what we are called to be. You can be an authentic jerk . . . many people on death row were “authentic.” Integrity calls us to be authentic to God’s work of transformation in us – not just authenticity based on our feelings and whims. It is the Holy Spirit’s work in us and our openness to it – His power and glory are what is seen – not us.
We have to expand the description beyond just “authentic”
The “PC” guy is over the top…I love it!
Seth Ward, i think you hit it on the head when you said: “Maybe it’s time for Christians to quit being “sub” cultural and become cultural”. Yet God still used these videos to open a door to let the Holy Spirit work in my heart. I was convicted of my repetitive need to “change the world” when really I’m called to seek my own breastplate or righteousness and allow God to change me.