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		<title>By: Brant</title>
		<link>http://shaungroves.com/2007/04/a-night-with-compassion/#comment-13029</link>
		<dc:creator>Brant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 00:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#8217;m actually relieved to see the $205k figure&#8212;that&#8217;s not high at all.
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That&#8217;s his TOTAL package, not salary.&#160; Includes all benefits, health insurance, retirement plans, etc.&#8212;PLUS his expense account.
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I can imagine his expense account is way up there, given his job.
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At any rate, for a guy that leads a $270 million operation, and has been doing it for decades, a salary of $150k or so is very, very low, and he&#8217;s in a high cost-of-living area, to boot.
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I&#8217;m a skeptic about ministry use of money, but this sounds no alarms whatsoever.&#160; Like I say, I&#8217;m actually relieved.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m actually relieved to see the $205k figure&#8212;that&#8217;s not high at all.
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That&#8217;s his TOTAL package, not salary.&nbsp; Includes all benefits, health insurance, retirement plans, etc.&#8212;PLUS his expense account.
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I can imagine his expense account is way up there, given his job.
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At any rate, for a guy that leads a $270 million operation, and has been doing it for decades, a salary of $150k or so is very, very low, and he&#8217;s in a high cost-of-living area, to boot.
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I&#8217;m a skeptic about ministry use of money, but this sounds no alarms whatsoever.&nbsp; Like I say, I&#8217;m actually relieved.</p>
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		<title>By: mark</title>
		<link>http://shaungroves.com/2007/04/a-night-with-compassion/#comment-13028</link>
		<dc:creator>mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 18:46:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;i think america needs to be rescued from it&#8217;s chronic wealth.&#160; i believe Compassion  International serves as a valuable tool for believers to help their neighbors in a distant land.&#160;
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i was surprised to see that on the Better Business Bureau&#8217;s Website Wess Stafford makes about $205,939 each year. i wonder what he does with all of these treasures here on earth?&#160;
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&lt;a href=&quot;http://charityreports.bbb.org/Public/Report.aspx?CharityID=3017&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://charityreports.bbb.org/Public/Report.aspx?CharityID=3017&lt;/a&gt;
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disseminating a good organization to get involved with is an interesting journey.&#160; in some ways i guess it just takes faith&#8230;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think america needs to be rescued from it&#8217;s chronic wealth.&nbsp; i believe Compassion  International serves as a valuable tool for believers to help their neighbors in a distant land.&nbsp;
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i was surprised to see that on the Better Business Bureau&#8217;s Website Wess Stafford makes about $205,939 each year. i wonder what he does with all of these treasures here on earth?&nbsp;
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<a href="http://charityreports.bbb.org/Public/Report.aspx?CharityID=3017" rel="nofollow">http://charityreports.bbb.org/Public/Report.aspx?CharityID=3017</a>
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disseminating a good organization to get involved with is an interesting journey.&nbsp; in some ways i guess it just takes faith&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: RevJeff</title>
		<link>http://shaungroves.com/2007/04/a-night-with-compassion/#comment-13027</link>
		<dc:creator>RevJeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 21:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;AS one of the pastors who has preached on the subject&#8230;
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I would guess that the same percentages are true with regard to the Gospel as well&#8230;
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Isaiah 58
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peace
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AS one of the pastors who has preached on the subject&#8230;<br />
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I would guess that the same percentages are true with regard to the Gospel as well&#8230;
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Isaiah 58
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peace</p>
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		<title>By: Shaun Groves</title>
		<link>http://shaungroves.com/2007/04/a-night-with-compassion/#comment-13026</link>
		<dc:creator>Shaun Groves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 17:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Brant, I accompanied Wes to a major donor event where I played  couple songs and talked briefly about why I&#8217;m behind Compassion International.&#160; Then Wes spoke briefly.&#160; Then checks were written for large amounts of money.&#160; That night the money was earmarked for the launching of the LDP (Leadership Development Program, which takes graduates on to higher education, leadership training, mentoring etc).&#160; It was new then.&#160; I wonder where that money would go if it were given today.&#160; I&#8217;ll ask.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brant, I accompanied Wes to a major donor event where I played  couple songs and talked briefly about why I&#8217;m behind Compassion International.&nbsp; Then Wes spoke briefly.&nbsp; Then checks were written for large amounts of money.&nbsp; That night the money was earmarked for the launching of the LDP (Leadership Development Program, which takes graduates on to higher education, leadership training, mentoring etc).&nbsp; It was new then.&nbsp; I wonder where that money would go if it were given today.&nbsp; I&#8217;ll ask.</p>
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		<title>By: Brant Hansen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brant Hansen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 17:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#8217;ve just wondered before about these gigantic endowments made to universities, and how Compassion might appropriate that same sort of largesse.
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There are organizations that simply *couldn&#8217;t* handle it.&#160; I don&#8217;t know anyone with $200 mil to give, but I do know some wealthy people, and I kinda wonder how Compassion deals with major donors, if they just use that money to plug into existing programs, or launch entirely new areas.&#160; Just curious what Wes would say, if he&#8217;d have an immediate, &#8220;Yes, here&#8217;s what we&#8217;d do...&#8221;
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And American churches could drop $200 million a year on Compassion in a heartbeat, if we so chose.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve just wondered before about these gigantic endowments made to universities, and how Compassion might appropriate that same sort of largesse.
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There are organizations that simply *couldn&#8217;t* handle it.&nbsp; I don&#8217;t know anyone with $200 mil to give, but I do know some wealthy people, and I kinda wonder how Compassion deals with major donors, if they just use that money to plug into existing programs, or launch entirely new areas.&nbsp; Just curious what Wes would say, if he&#8217;d have an immediate, &#8220;Yes, here&#8217;s what we&#8217;d do&#8230;&#8221;
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And American churches could drop $200 million a year on Compassion in a heartbeat, if we so chose.</p>
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		<title>By: Shaun Groves</title>
		<link>http://shaungroves.com/2007/04/a-night-with-compassion/#comment-13024</link>
		<dc:creator>Shaun Groves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 16:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;How many children are still waiting for sponsors?&lt;/i&gt;
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out of the 860,000 kids being cared for by Compassion International, I believe the number that HAVE sponsors was around 720,000.&#160; If I&#8217;m correct about that, then that would mean about 140,000 kids need sponsors and are currently having their care paid for by the unsponsored children&#8217;s fund.&#160; That fund is what I suggest any one-time gift folks put on the memo line of their checks.&#160; We recently were handed a check for $10,000 and had them make it out to Compassion International but designate it to that fund.
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&lt;i&gt;.&#160; Could Compassion handle it if someone donated, say, $200 million dollars?&lt;/i&gt;
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What do you mean by &#8220;handle it&#8221; Brant?&#160; Do mean could they use it?&#160; Or how would they use it?&#160; What exactly do you mean...and do you have a donation to make? ; )
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&lt;i&gt;American pulpits haven’t changed how we view Compassion International and poverty—Compassion and poverty has changed how we view American pulpits.&lt;/i&gt;
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Yes.&#160; Me too.
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Compassion is developing what I can only describe as sermon aids to help pastors teach about poverty and the Christian&#8217;s role in combatting it.&#160; Wes has spoken to large numbers of pastors and asked why they don&#8217;t teach on poverty.&#160; The answer he gets most often, he said, is that they don&#8217;t know anything about it.&#160; Seminary didn&#8217;t prepare them for it.&#160; So he&#8217;s asked them if they&#8217;d teach about it if they were prepared.&#160; They say yes.&#160; So he&#8217;s preparing them.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>How many children are still waiting for sponsors?</i>
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out of the 860,000 kids being cared for by Compassion International, I believe the number that HAVE sponsors was around 720,000.&nbsp; If I&#8217;m correct about that, then that would mean about 140,000 kids need sponsors and are currently having their care paid for by the unsponsored children&#8217;s fund.&nbsp; That fund is what I suggest any one-time gift folks put on the memo line of their checks.&nbsp; We recently were handed a check for $10,000 and had them make it out to Compassion International but designate it to that fund.
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<i>.&nbsp; Could Compassion handle it if someone donated, say, $200 million dollars?</i><br />
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What do you mean by &#8220;handle it&#8221; Brant?&nbsp; Do mean could they use it?&nbsp; Or how would they use it?&nbsp; What exactly do you mean&#8230;and do you have a donation to make? ; )
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<i>American pulpits haven’t changed how we view Compassion International and poverty—Compassion and poverty has changed how we view American pulpits.</i><br />
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Yes.&nbsp; Me too.
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Compassion is developing what I can only describe as sermon aids to help pastors teach about poverty and the Christian&#8217;s role in combatting it.&nbsp; Wes has spoken to large numbers of pastors and asked why they don&#8217;t teach on poverty.&nbsp; The answer he gets most often, he said, is that they don&#8217;t know anything about it.&nbsp; Seminary didn&#8217;t prepare them for it.&nbsp; So he&#8217;s asked them if they&#8217;d teach about it if they were prepared.&nbsp; They say yes.&nbsp; So he&#8217;s preparing them.</p>
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		<title>By: Brant</title>
		<link>http://shaungroves.com/2007/04/a-night-with-compassion/#comment-13023</link>
		<dc:creator>Brant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 15:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;1.&#160; Could Compassion handle it if someone donated, say, $200 million dollars?
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2.&#160; What would Compassion do C.I. was suddenly funded with an extra $200 million a year?&#160; What would happen?
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3.&#160; What does he think of campaigns to help, say, Africa, that ask for no sacrifice?
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4.&#160; What does he think of current ideas/projects to help Africa that rely on largely statist solutions, through the IMF, the U.N., etc.?
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5.&#160; His recommendation:&#160; Should Christians give to UNICEF?
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6.&#160; How many children does he sponsor?
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Please let him know Compassion is making those sermons happen, just not in pulpits...but pulpits are becoming less important.&#160;
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For my family:&#160; American pulpits haven&#8217;t changed how we view Compassion International and poverty&#8212;Compassion and poverty has changed how we view American pulpits.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1.&nbsp; Could Compassion handle it if someone donated, say, $200 million dollars?
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2.&nbsp; What would Compassion do C.I. was suddenly funded with an extra $200 million a year?&nbsp; What would happen?
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3.&nbsp; What does he think of campaigns to help, say, Africa, that ask for no sacrifice?
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4.&nbsp; What does he think of current ideas/projects to help Africa that rely on largely statist solutions, through the IMF, the U.N., etc.?
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5.&nbsp; His recommendation:&nbsp; Should Christians give to UNICEF?
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6.&nbsp; How many children does he sponsor?
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Please let him know Compassion is making those sermons happen, just not in pulpits&#8230;but pulpits are becoming less important.&nbsp;
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For my family:&nbsp; American pulpits haven&#8217;t changed how we view Compassion International and poverty&#8212;Compassion and poverty has changed how we view American pulpits.</p>
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		<title>By: Grovesfan</title>
		<link>http://shaungroves.com/2007/04/a-night-with-compassion/#comment-13022</link>
		<dc:creator>Grovesfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 14:11:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I would like to know what specific things we can pray for for those who work in the Compassion centers around the world.&#160; How many children are still waiting for sponsors?&#160; What&#8217;s the average wait time for a child to get a sponsor?&#160; OK, I know that&#8217;s more than one question, but I&#8217;d still like to know.
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We got a letter from our little boy, Wedner, in Haiti the other day.&#160; He was thanking us for the Christmas gift we sent.&#160; He used the money to buy himself a chicken to raise.&#160; My kids thought that was so cool and wanted to know if we could get one too!
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Beth
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to know what specific things we can pray for for those who work in the Compassion centers around the world.&nbsp; How many children are still waiting for sponsors?&nbsp; What&#8217;s the average wait time for a child to get a sponsor?&nbsp; OK, I know that&#8217;s more than one question, but I&#8217;d still like to know.
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We got a letter from our little boy, Wedner, in Haiti the other day.&nbsp; He was thanking us for the Christmas gift we sent.&nbsp; He used the money to buy himself a chicken to raise.&nbsp; My kids thought that was so cool and wanted to know if we could get one too!
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Beth</p>
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		<title>By: euphrony</title>
		<link>http://shaungroves.com/2007/04/a-night-with-compassion/#comment-13021</link>
		<dc:creator>euphrony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 12:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Questions for him: I don&#8217;t know, offhand.&#160; I would tell him that what he and Compassion are doing is awesome.
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I read a few years ago about Jesus teaching on the Good Samaritan.&#160; This was, apparently, a common rabbinical parable; except Jesus put a twist, really a barb, in the parable.&#160; As commonly told, after the priest and Levite, a pious Jew would come along and tend to the beaten man.&#160; Can you imagine the crowd as they heard Jesus begin this story to answer &#8220;Who is my neighbor&#8221;?&#160; I&#8217;m sure it was like hearing a comforting old story: of course, Jesus, I&#8217;m the little man and I can be more righteous than the professional if I care for my hurt brother.&#160; But then Jesus hits them with this hated, outcast Samaritan.&#160; Sure, we&#8217;ve all talked about how this was a hard teaching about loving everyone; but to see how Jesus lured them down the path and then sprang a trap on their egos and self-centeredness, that makes the parable even more meaningful to me.&#160; It makes me wonder if we&#8217;ve become a little too comfortable in hearing this story of the Good Samaritan and we need Jesus to upend our complacency, as well.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Questions for him: I don&#8217;t know, offhand.&nbsp; I would tell him that what he and Compassion are doing is awesome.
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I read a few years ago about Jesus teaching on the Good Samaritan.&nbsp; This was, apparently, a common rabbinical parable; except Jesus put a twist, really a barb, in the parable.&nbsp; As commonly told, after the priest and Levite, a pious Jew would come along and tend to the beaten man.&nbsp; Can you imagine the crowd as they heard Jesus begin this story to answer &#8220;Who is my neighbor&#8221;?&nbsp; I&#8217;m sure it was like hearing a comforting old story: of course, Jesus, I&#8217;m the little man and I can be more righteous than the professional if I care for my hurt brother.&nbsp; But then Jesus hits them with this hated, outcast Samaritan.&nbsp; Sure, we&#8217;ve all talked about how this was a hard teaching about loving everyone; but to see how Jesus lured them down the path and then sprang a trap on their egos and self-centeredness, that makes the parable even more meaningful to me.&nbsp; It makes me wonder if we&#8217;ve become a little too comfortable in hearing this story of the Good Samaritan and we need Jesus to upend our complacency, as well.</p>
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